Department of War is just such a fucking joke title - when has the US stooped so low, I used to believe in you guys as the force of good on this planet smh

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baggachipz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well then I don't know where you've been for the last ~10~ ~20~ 70 years

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mwigdahl 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When? Its entire history from the foundation of the Republic to 1947. The name was changed after WWII; now a faction wants to change it back. The difference in name never changed the behavior, in either direction.

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darvid 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm 33 years old, would you mind telling me which year you thought this was, force of good stuff? might be before my time

genuinely curious, I got nothing

	▲	mylifeandtimes an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		it was before your time. In WWII, we saved the world from what is now seen as some really evil stuff. Not alone of course, Europe and Russia made huge sacrifices and that's where much of the war was fought. But US arms and blood were the decisive factor, Germany was winning, Japan was winning. After WWII, the US decided to rebuild the world. We turned our enemies (Germany, Japan) into our close allies. And the people who did it were really and seriously morally committed to doing what they thought was right. It was about building a country, working together. Not the insane politics of today. Look, it wasn't all rose-tinted glasses. Bad stuff happened, and McCarthy was worse that what we currently have. And the civil rights movement and all of that. And the stupid wars, Korea, Vietnam, all the smaller police actions. Bad shit was done. But on balance, the US was seen as the force of good, and the guaranteeor of world peace and the prosperity that allows.
	▲	phtrivier 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The USA were pretty clearly on the "better side" of conflicts in 1941-1945, during the Cold War (at least as far as Europe and the Marshall plan was concerned). In Koweït and central Europe during the 90s. You may even argue for Afghanistan post 9-11 (although the state building was botched.) in the 2000s. ISIS is a footnote in history because of US intervention (from Trump first term, of all things.) And Ukraine would not be against getting the support it had in 2022 back under Trump. Does not mean that very bad things were not happening at the same time. But it's definitely easier to find some "supportable" interventions from the US than, say, Russia or China.