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nailer 5 hours ago

What government makes it illegal for management to manage their company?

kace91 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Many European countries, including mine (spain) only accept mass firings when the company proves it’s a necessity. Usually this means showing losses or the effect of force majeure events like natural disasters.

You can manage your company just fine, by not overshooting your hiring by 2x if workers were anctually unneeded for example.

acchow 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But in your country (Spain), Telefónica de España laid off 3649 workers in Dec 2023 (about 40% of that unit) despite growing net income by 17% that year.

kace91 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Nice googling, but that’s just an example that proves my point.

They had to go through a process extensively justifying losses (mostly that certain jobs were no longer relevant as they were pre-digital workforce), negotiate with unions and offer voluntary leaving conditions.

The resulting offer was good enough that more workers applied to be fired than were necesssary. For context, the deal was basically to pay them 70% of their current salary from the dismissal moment until their retirement at 63.

Klonoar an hour ago | parent [-]

What was the average age of the worker that took that deal?

121789 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

spain has the highest unemployment rate in the EU. maybe you are ignoring important tradeoffs and are a little too confident about your own opinion on what it means to "manage your company just fine"

kace91 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe, or maybe you’re about to find out what happens to the consumer side when a large percentage of companies decide they no longer need half their workforce judging on linkedin vibes.