| ▲ | drnick1 5 hours ago |
| Pixels only make sense if you are going to install Graphene. The Google OS is bloated with spyware. |
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| ▲ | inigyou 5 hours ago | parent [-] |
| On a Pixel phone you have only Google spyware. On another brand's phone you have all the same Google spyware, plus the spyware from that brand and a permanently locked bootloader. |
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| ▲ | esperent 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can remove 3rd party spyware/bloat in 15 minutes with Shizuka/canto and a usb cable and you won't notice anything changed in the phone. Unfortunately the Google spyware is so deeply integrated that you can't really do that unless you accept a ton of things not working - not just Google apps but also lots of third party apps that require Play services. | | |
| ▲ | drnick1 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, if you want full degoogling you need a custom ROM like Graphene on Pixels or Lineage. The main issue these days is that bootloaders are locked. Phone manufacturers mostly refuse to give you control over your own hardware. | |
| ▲ | recursive 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > You can remove 3rd party spyware/bloat in 15 minutes with Shizuka/canto These techniques seem not to be widely known. A kagi search turned up only information about some singer. |
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