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ls-a 2 hours ago

There is a YC startup who's product is a blacklist of employees so that other startups don't hire them. Female founders. Forgot its name.

Edit: With AI's help I found its name. Startup called Bad News.

shrubble 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How would that even be legal? (Although I can't find such a startup with any kind of search engine)

akerl_ an hour ago | parent [-]

Why would it be illegal?

john_strinlai 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

i am not sure of anywhere it is illegal.

but areas i am familiar with can consider a negative reference to be defamation, thus anyone providing a negative reference should only do so if they are able to defend it (i.e. prove their statement is substantially true, or prove that the statement was honestly believed to be true and published with no malice or reckless disregard).

seems risky, at least, to build a whole business around negative references that could potentially cross the line into defamation. but that type of thinking is probably why i am not rich.

nerdsniper 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

There are many definitions of illegal (criminal, civil, regulatory, the much much looser “license to operate” as used in chemical industry, etc).

A blacklist seems dubious. I’d advise the founders to get counsel on their obligations under the FCRA, which they may be construed to be regulated by.

That said, I believe "Bad News" is an AI hallucination. The most similar company I can find historical news is "Peeple"[0], which was not funded by YC. YCombinator's only known association with a blacklist that I can find was a blacklist of VC's that were accused of harassing female founders[1].

0: https://archive.is/r9UQo

1: https://archive.is/17Ans

john_strinlai 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>There are many definitions of illegal (criminal, civil, regulatory, the much much looser “license to operate” as used in chemical industry, etc).

yes, but i am not sure why this matters here. i am not aware of negative references, in general, being illegal under any of those definitions of illegal.

no one would say regular speech is illegal just because it can be subject to a defamation lawsuit. same logic.

but i agree, if it is a real business, it seems exceptionally risky.

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drcongo 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's definitely illegal in the UK.

john_strinlai 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

i dont believe that it is illegal to provide a negative reference in the UK, as long as it is honest, factual, and provided in good faith.

from gov.uk:

>"If you think you’ve been given an unfair or misleading reference, you may be able to claim damages in court. Your previous employer must be able to back up the reference, such as by supplying examples of warning letters.

You must be able to show that:

- it’s misleading or inaccurate

-you ‘suffered a loss’ – for example, the withdrawal of a job offer"

which means, if the reference is not misleading and not inaccurate, a negative reference is ok. other uk-based law firms (from a quick google) agree with this interpretation.

k33n 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't find any website for it. Are you sure it's not just some posting category on Bookface, YC's internal social network?

ls-a 2 hours ago | parent [-]

According to chatgpt there was backlash and the startup renamed itself. I remember when i saw it in YC's startup list a few years ago it seemed stealthy (no website etc.)

tptacek 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

GPT:

There are some mentions online of a Y Combinator startup called Bad News, but nothing official or well-documented shows up in public YC lists or press — at least as of the latest searchable sources.

The only place it’s referenced is in a Hacker News thread where someone claimed there was a YC company whose product was a blacklist of employees so other startups wouldn’t hire them, and they said the name was Bad News. But people in that thread couldn’t find any evidence of it, and there aren’t real search results tying that name to an official YC company on YC’s site, their startup directory, or mainstream reports.

hypeatei 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are you obfuscating so much and telling people to use ChatGPT? How hard would it be to paste what they renamed to and/or the founders' names?

ls-a 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm not that interested really in putting that much effort. Take it or leave it

BigTTYGothGF 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> According to chatgpt

Oh come on.

ls-a 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think you missed the second part where I saw it in the YC startup list with a description of what it does and who the founders were. But since it disappeared I had to ask chatgpt what happened. You can ask chatgpt as well there is nothing wrong with that

weird-eye-issue 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ask it about what it might have hallucinated to help it hallucinate more?