| ▲ | alephnerd 9 hours ago |
| Chinese manufacturers like CXMT face the same kinds of issues that Huawei faced in entering the EU market - the EU is clamping down on Chinese suppliers across their supply chain [0]. Where can CXMT and other Chinese players export when Japan, South Korea, much of ASEAN, India, much of North America, the EU, the UK, Australia, NZ, and parts of the Gulf have enacted or begun enacting trade barriers against Chinese exports? [0] - https://www.ft.com/content/eb677cb3-f86c-42de-b819-277bcb042... |
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| ▲ | jorvi 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| RAM isn't a critical security category like 5G base stations. Also, I don't think you've seen true consumer rage until the opposition in the EU would start pointing out the current parties are making the smartphones, laptops, TVs and whatnot consumers wanna buy much more expensive (or more crappy). Large parts of the EU are currently being crushed by one of the worst housing crises in the world, the economy seems to be wavering for young people especially, and tech / gadgets being cheap was one of the sole rays of light left. |
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| ▲ | sehansen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Youth unemployment is actually somewhat low in the EU at the moment. It's at around 15%, which is the level as back in 2008 before the great recession. | |
| ▲ | CodesInChaos 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > RAM isn't a critical security category like 5G base stations. Those base stations are only security critical because mobile networks are deliberately insecure to enable government surveillance. And I can image backdooring RAM. At least the controller part. | |
| ▲ | iamacyborg 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Large parts of the EU are currently being crushed by one of the worst housing crises in the world, the economy seems to be wavering for young people especially, and tech / gadgets being cheap was one of the sole rays of light left. Huh? |
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| ▲ | nl an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| RAM is pretty different to Huawei 5G base stations. Australia for example is a large and growing market for Chinese electric cars. China is the biggest export market for Australian raw materials so it doesn't just put random trade barriers up. There's actually a free trade agreement between Australia and China. |
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| ▲ | numpad0 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So, EU and US tend to actually implement such bans, but the rest of those countries in a list like that.. People appreciated cheap YMTC 232-layers when that happened where I live. |
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| ▲ | Ygg2 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Then those countries that didn't will have an advantage at selling their electronics to the world. Or their consumers will enjoy cheap PC part prices. With possible gray zone re-export market. Of course we could see retreat from global markets to mercantilism, but that has yet to fully happen. |
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| ▲ | alephnerd 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Or China could stop antagonizing blocs like the EU through actions like solidifying ties with Russia [0][1][2], imposing rare earth export restrictions on the EU [3], and undermining EU institutions [4]. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-putin-hail-tie... [1] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-president-xi-meet... [2] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-calls-closer-defen... [3] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-steps-up-efforts-cut-... [4] - https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/ch... | | |
| ▲ | kasabali 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > stop antagonizing blocs like the EU Who antagonized who first, again? | |
| ▲ | yehat 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ahh, it is always China antagonizing others, isn't it?
There's nothing wrong EU coming to absurd lengths in all directions that are leading to destruction of its economy and society only to please the narrative of few degraded groups of individuals. Yet, it is others that are the cause. Nice, easy story telling.
All governments in the world turned to be on the dark side. But some are reaching new heights. | | |
| ▲ | wredcoll 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's weird how the implication of "every government is bad" is that we should stop trying to improve them or worry about the ones that are the worst. | | |
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| ▲ | roenxi 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And Asia is mostly peaceful right now while war has returned to Europe on a scale not seen in 50 years. Those crazy Chinese, eh? Massive failure of their foreign policy establishment. Total inability to engage with Russia. > and undermining EU institutions If the Europeans had any common sense they'd be undermining EU institutions as well, those institutions have been disasters. They aren't doing a good job of keeping the peace, they aren't doing a good job of promoting prosperity and they've had successes like forcing Apple to switch from Lightening to USB ports. The CCP on the other hand have been so successful in the last few decades that they're making authoritarianism look good. If the EU focused on figuring out what good policy looked like then they that wouldn't be the case. Although I assume sooner or later the ideological issues will catch up with China. |
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| ▲ | malshe 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's a good point. |