Doesn’t the EU have an excellent education system?

Even the most excellent education system takes several yeas to educate a high-schooler to a level of a junior engineer. Then several more years are needed for the best of them to become senior engineers, with the knowledge and experience that a university alone cannot provide.

So, we're looking at a decade-long project at least, even if everything goes as planned, and crazy fast, in the technical and administrative departments.

	▲	autoexec 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		All the more reason to start now I guess. Putting it off isn't going to get them that knowledge and experience any sooner. If something happens over the next 10 years that eliminates our need for memory chips things will probably be either too messed up or too wonderful for anyone to cry over the years they needlessly spent trying to secure a domestic source of RAM.

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TacticalCoder 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Doesn’t the EU have an excellent education system?

Excellent universities, overall. But results from primary and secondary schools are nose diving at a more than alarming rate in several EU countries. Literacy rates are falling, math grades are falling. There's IMO only so much time before universities begin to be affected as well.

	▲	u_sama 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It is a general phenomenon across the Western developped world, here is the account of a professor which went viral a few months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43522966
	▲	silon42 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Maybe having less RAM and using pen/paper instead of tablet/phone will improve things...

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Ray20 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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	▲	iamacyborg 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That’s a remarkably misinformed take.

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throw_m239339 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Doesn’t the EU have an excellent education system?

Well, the EU has not manufactured a whole lot of chips in the last 30 years, where do you get the people with the professional experience to teach new engineers... Oh you mean you have to import the teachers from South Asia too? /s and it takes what, 5 years at the minimum to train an engineer? France and UK used to produce entire home computers... in the 80's...

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nine_k 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Come on, STM, Nordic, Infineon, NXP are all European. There is a bunch of chip-making installations in Dresden, Germany (Global Foundries, Bosch, etc), and there's Intel Fab 34 in Ireland. BTW TSMC is planning to open a production facility in Europe in 2027.

This is not comparable to Taiwan or the Shenzen area, but it's definitely not nothing. Some local expertise exists, even though it may be not the most cutting-edge.

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kgeist 9 hours ago | parent [-]

ASML, which is based in the Netherlands, produces chip-making machines which TSMC and everyone else use to produce said chips. I think they got some expertise too :)

	▲	nine_k 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This is so, but ASML does not produce chips. There's a difference between e.g. building an airplane and piloting an airplane.
	▲	joe_mamba 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		ASML doesn't make chips, they make the machines.