| ▲ | 0xy 3 hours ago |
| I think it's more likely that Microsoft is vibe coding slop garbage to replace their core apps that were literally better. Windows 10 explorer.exe is 100x faster than Windows 11 explorer, it's not even close. It also signals the death knell for Windows native apps. Microsoft can't make them anymore. It won't be long until even Excel is a Electron sloplication. |
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| ▲ | dataflow 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Windows 10 explorer.exe is 100x faster than Windows 11 explorer, it's not even close. I have a hard time believing this. I'm pretty sensitive to performance losses and I haven't noticed any difference between those. It wouldn't make sense either, given they should both host the same shell icon views. Are you sure the difference you're seeing is in explorer.exe? As opposed to something else, like a new shell extension or a new filesystem filter driver on Windows 11? |
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| ▲ | lenkite 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It is certainly perceptibly slow. Carried out a test on my 12 year old PC running Win-10 vs a new HP Win11 laptop of my friend which he bought in a hurry before price increases. Opened a directory of several thousand files with nested folders - much slower at navigation. Much slower at opening right-click menus. Much slower at pretty much everything. M$ has now introduced web-latency into the desktop along with their adoption of web-tech into the OS. You gotta get used to staring at that spinning blue circle, counting the many precious moments of your life draining away. | |
| ▲ | 201984 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > As opposed to something else, like a new shell extension or a new filesystem filter driver on Windows 11? Ultimately, what difference does it make? The file explorer in Windows 10 is much faster than the one in Windows 11, and it's very noticeable. Turn on the old context menus, and try right clicking a file. Instant in Windows 10, visible delay in Windows 11. | |
| ▲ | protocolture an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Its not faster bereft of context, its just bloated. If you have enough resource to throw at it, its roughly the same. Theres some specific things that can themselves be slower, the Windows 11 Start Menu has had a lot of words written about its new implementation. | |
| ▲ | mapontosevenths an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I measured once. It uses about 50% more resources and offers less feautures (or at least hides existing feautures). You may not have noticed if you had resources to spare. It does offer some new features for businesses. Nothing useful for the consumer, and nothing to justify the massive performance loss |
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| ▲ | steve1977 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The best example is probably the new "Outlook", and I put that name in quotes intentionally. |
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| ▲ | password4321 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In case anyone is not aware: 20231109 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453 Windows 11 Update 23H2 is stealing users' IMAP credentials (666 points, 278 comments) > the new Outlook is a thin wrapper around the cloud version, so the IMAP sync happens in the cloud, not locally | | |
| ▲ | ruszki 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | This was one of the most outrageous data grab in the past years. They replaced the completely working simple Mail app, which I used until that point, with this garbage, and I was just lucky that I paid attention, and I stopped for a sec what is that warning which tells you that they grab literally all of your emails. Btw, just before that I found this page regarding Edge, and this is why I paid more attention to these things:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/microsoft-edge/priva... That list is way too long for my taste, and it really indicated me that Windows became completely adversarial. |
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| ▲ | throwaway85825 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
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| ▲ | bubblewand 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It's been so weird to watch over the decades as team sizes, budgets, and timelines have exploded even as we've abandoned once-normal things like native GUI applications as too hard in favor of "more efficient" webshit... even as the aforementioned stuff with growing team sizes, budgets, and timelines have happened. |
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| ▲ | nextaccountic 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What's weird is that AI is supposed to make development easy enough that native applications are just as fast to build than web apps Somehow in this timeline AI can only be used to make things worse and sloppier | | |
| ▲ | throwaway85825 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Software used to be built for users, now it just has to look good as a screenshot. | | |
| ▲ | mapontosevenths an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The user is not the customer. Microsoft builds software for the enterprise now, so Windows 11 is full of new features for the enterprise and has nothing for the User. They forgot that Enterprises are made out of Users. | |
| ▲ | assaddayinh an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | mulmen 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s also weird that the productivity increases of AI lead to layoffs instead of hiring. If we can do more with AI why are companies scrambling to maintain the current output? Does leadership lack the vision of what to do with the additional productivity? |
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