| ▲ | mcv 2 hours ago |
| It's not feasible to have a bus stop right in front of every house. It's unavoidable that most people are going to have to walk a bit. How far is reasonable, is a matter of trade-offs. It also depends on how fine grained the network is. If there are buslines every block, it's annoying if they don't stop there. But you have to walk a block or two to get to a bus line anyway, walking that bit more to get to the stop itself, matters a lot less. |
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| ▲ | JoshTriplett 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > It's not feasible to have a bus stop right in front of every house. And this is why point-to-point transportation is almost always faster and more convenient, if you can afford to use it. (That load-bearing "if" is important, though.) |
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| ▲ | xmprt an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > And this is why point-to-point transportation is almost always faster and more convenient Point-to-point transportation is faster and more convenient because: 1. we don't have bus lanes so buses are forced to sit in the same traffic as cars and
2. buses are often underfunded so have slow/infrequent service. Point to point transportation is often slower and less convenient if buses and public transit is done right. I can count on my fingers the number of times I used an Uber or drove a car in the 1 month that I stayed in Europe - this was going out every day, in multiple cities, rural and urban, and across different countries. This is a good thing! If more people use public transit when it's possible, it opens up the roads for the handful of people who actually NEED to use a car. | |
| ▲ | njarboe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Self driving cars for hire (Waymo, Tesla, others) can be that point-to-point system that is affordable. We will just have to build tunnels to deal with the increase in traffic. Hopefully the Boring Company or someone else can get tunneling costs way down. | | |
| ▲ | janalsncm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If you are not being facetious, what you are describing is closer to a subway system, which has the disadvantage of being very expensive. | |
| ▲ | mulmen 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As long as one of those points is a transit stop then yeah, robotaxis make sense. In that model you don’t need the tunnels. They make even more sense if they are a bit larger and can accommodate multiple people at once. Something like a large van or small bus. | |
| ▲ | JoshTriplett 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hopefully someone else, so it actually happens and isn't overpromised and underdelivered. (Also, tunnels are useful not just for the increase in traffic, but for moving car traffic away from non-car traffic, which makes both kinds of traffic safer, faster, and more efficient.) |
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| ▲ | cyberax 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| No, it's not unavoidable. Just ditch the buses and switch to cars, soon to be self-driving. Even the rush hour traffic is trivially solved by mild carpooling (small vans for 4-6 people). |
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| ▲ | wussboy an hour ago | parent [-] | | Not Just Bikes makes a compelling argument that self driving cars are not the answer, and will almost certainly make things worse | | |
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