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xyzzy123 3 hours ago

Most people, when they turn the tap on, they don't know where the water comes from. Try asking someone "What is the physical principle that makes the water come out of the tap? How do they make it come out?" you might be surprised how many people don't know and most importantly don't care.

The water comes out. The water has always come out, every time, so it's not really a thing worth investigating. Like the sunrise.

In many many domains I am that person.

If a person doesn't know (except in the vaguest terms) where their water comes from, where their poo goes when they flush, where their food comes from (the supermarket!), or the energy that heats their home... what do they really know? Most of us know very little about the concrete networks and systems that keep us alive.

But this is what civilisation is.

teekert an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I feel a certain uncomfortableness when I don't know these things. It's annoying, and yet it brings me many things as well. When I drive off in my car, I half visualize the clutch plates coming into contact with each other etc etc etc.

But my kids call any internet connection WiFi. My wife didn't understand why she couldn't print with the WiFi switch off (back when we had switches). And every time I try to tell them "how the internet flows", I take them to the hotspot and tell them what WiFi is, how the UTP cable goes to the modem and the fiber goes into the ground and somewhere it gets information from some other computer. And I tell them why they have less issues with our local Minecraft server then when he gets invited to a worlds on someone's Playstation across town (in Bugrock).

It's tiring in a way, even more so for people around me. And still, it also brings me many nice things.

frizlab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is the physical principle that makes the water come out of the tap? How do they make it come out?

Curious coincidence, I was literally thinking yesterday: “but why does the water come out of the tap?” I self-answered “must be the pressure somehow” but did not dig much more…

slumberlust 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

The water gnomes carry it there.

tjhorner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The post raises several points that I wholeheartedly agree with, but the framing is poor and honestly kind of elitist (or just short-sighted). Maybe to the point that I think much of it might just be bait, lol. For example:

> Ask a twenty-two-year-old to connect to a remote server via SSH. Ask them to explain what DNS is at a conceptual level. Ask them to tell you the difference between their router’s public IP and the local IP of their laptop. Ask them to open a terminal and list the contents of a directory. These are not advanced topics. Twenty years ago these were things you learned in the first week of any serious engagement with computers.

What? Computers were everywhere in all kinds of domains by 2006, but you can bet that your average accountant of the time would most likely not be able to SSH into a server (nor should they need to...) I guess it really depends on what the author qualifies as a "serious engagement with computers."

mattmanser 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They"ve basically got the dates pretty wrong. It's make sense if they'd said 35 years ago, that's when it was common to know that.

I'd say almost all of that became redundant for the average person with windows 3.1 release (34 years ago) or, maybe, more windows 95 (31 years ago).

I remember desperately trying to get two computers to talk to each other so we could play doom in the early 90s, whatever black magic we had to do seemed to take hours to get working.

The time we had 3 or even 4 computers playing Baldurs Gate together I swear we started trying to get the computers talking at 7pm and didn't start playing till 10 (but it was amazing).

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SuperHeavy256 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a good and important counter-point to the given article. If we as 'tech people' expect the layman to have a higher standard of tech knowledge, then what is to stop people from other fields from telling us to do the same? Truthfully, an average person won't develop expert knowledge of every field.