My teenager recently asked me why I write like a chatbot, apparently unaware that some human beings prefer to write in complete sentences with attention to details like spelling, punctuation, grammar, and capitalization, and that LLMs were trained on this sort of writing.

This makes me think of the fad where people on youtube will hold a microphone up in frame, because it somehow connotes authenticity. I'm sure some people are already embracing a bit of sloppiness in their writing as a signal of humanity; I'm equally sure that future chatbots will learn to do the same.

▲ ASalazarMX an hour ago | parent | next [-]

2040 at Wal-Mart:

- Customer: Excuse me, I'm looking for the Aunt Jemima maple syrup. Can you point me in the right direction?

- Employee: y u ask like chatbot

	▲	swid an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Is the customer actually a chat bot though? That brand is renamed, but maybe after the training cutoff date.

▲ Animats 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> people on youtube will hold a microphone up in frame,

Now you need a really big microphone, something that looks like it was built in 1952.

	▲	rzzzt an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Lapel mic clipped on a cooking utensil works as well.

▲ mcbishop 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The creator of OpenClaw, for example, has come to appreciate grammatical / spelling errors in human writing (as he said in a recent Lex Fridman interview).

▲ pvtmert 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I started making deliberate grammar and spelling mistakes in professional context. Not like I have a perfect writing anyway, but at least I could prove that it was self-written, not an auto-generated slop. (Could be self-written slop though :)

This applies not only work-stuff itself also to the job-applications/cv/resume and cover-letters.

▲ tomxor 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I started making deliberate grammar and spelling mistakes in professional context.

I've also noticed an increase of this in myself and others, I used to edit a lot more before sending anything, but now it seems more authentic if you just hit send so it's more off the cuff with typos, broken sentences and all.

I'm sure an LLM could easily mimic this but it's not their default.

▲ mghackerlady 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

unrelated but I've never understood how to put a smiley at the end of parenthetical sentences (which comes up surprisingly often for me since I use smileys a lot and also like using parentheses). Just the smiley as an end parentheses (like this :) feels off but adding another parentheses (like this :) ) makes it look like it should be nested which causes problems since I also tend to nest parenthetical sentences (like (this)).

Yes I enjoy lisp, how could you tell

▲ sevensor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The answer is obviously to balance your smiley faces and wrap the entire statement in the smiley face sentiment. ((: Like this :))

	▲	mrexroad 14 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That’s quite the Scheme…
	▲	mghackerlady an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I like this simply for the absurdity of it, but will only use it when the entire parenthetical is modified by the smiley instead of a single word or phrase (:since I really like it:) but (it looks ugly, no hard feelings :) )

▲ rpastuszak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your comment made me realise that there's logic to this (like this :), since in HTML we can:

    <li> do this
    <li> and this

instead of: <li> ... </li>

and <img alt='this'> instead of <img ... />

You might like Lisp, but what you're saying reminds me of the late 00s/early 2010s xHTML2 vs. HTML5 debate :)

	▲	mghackerlady an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm an avid defender of xHTML. You can pry it from my cold dead hands
	▲	abustamam an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Thanks, I hate it :)

▲ tuckerman 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Post C++11 you can just do (like this:)), no extra space needed before the last parenthesis.

	▲	mghackerlady an hour ago \| parent [-]
		But then it looks like I'm using a double smiley[0] which I do actually use on occasion [0] :))

▲ kruffalon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I tend to rephrase myself so I dont end a statement inside a parenthesis with a smiley.

It's one of those things I think are worth putting some extra effort into, I'm glad to see at least one other person giving it some thought. Thx <3

▲ tuetuopay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Use dashes and the problem goes away! Well, you gain the LLM witch-hunt, but heh, no free lunch.

▲ giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have the same problem. I just ditch the smiley face. :)

	▲	mghackerlady 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		never >:(

▲ MarsIronPI an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/541

▲ dylan604 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm trademarking the improper use of it/it's, there/their/they're, were/we're, etc as a sign of my humanity. Apple's typocorrect is doing it for me anyways.

▲ recursive 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This only works as "proof" up until someone innovates an "authenticity" flag on the LLM output.

	▲	judahmeek an hour ago \| parent [-]
		https://github.com/ethel-dev/misspell

▲ trollbridge an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve been doing the same thing. Basically a Turing test.

▲ cvoss 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I appreciate you including a few minor mistakes in this very post:

> I started making deliberate grammar and spelling mistakes in professional context[s]. Not like I have ~a~ perfect writing anyway, but at least I could prove that it was self-written, not an auto-generated slop. (Could be self-written slop though :)

> This applies not only [to] work-stuff itself also to the job-applications/cv/resume and cover-letters.

I conclude you are real.

▲ SpaceManNabs 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I got similar accusations recently on reddit lol. Just because i am used to formatting markdown i like to format some of my reddit comments. i have no idea how to avoid the accusations besides typing less formally except by typing like thisss.