But also too, packed with junkies who, at best, behave erratically and at worse assault randoms.

Taking the bus around sf makes it immediately clear why (not all, but most) people who have options choose them.

Honestly, there aren't that many crazy people on the SF Muni/busses. The detractor for taking these services is speed and frequency.

Even factoring in parking, traffic, and bus lanes, it's much faster to drive within SF than take the bus. Stopping every 2 blocks and missing every other green light kills throughput.

My local bus stop to connect to BART supposedly had service every 20 mins, but often a bus would be out of service and the wait would be 30-40 minutes. Unless a bus was right there, it was faster to walk.

	▲	singron 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The crazy people depend a lot on routes, the part of the city, and the time of day. E.g. the 1 (Sacramento St/California St) is basically fine all the time. The 38 (Geary) and 14 (Mission) are OK during the commute rush since they are packed full of commuters, but outside of those times, you will eventually see all kinds of unsocial behavior (shouting, fights, defecation, etc.), especially closer to civic center/tenderloin/mission.
	▲	janalsncm 9 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> Honestly, there aren't that many crazy people on the SF Muni/busses. The detractor for taking these services is speed and frequency. Everyone can form their own opinion on the acceptable number of visibly intoxicated people they’d like to encounter. That said, my understanding of the law is that the correct number is zero. So seeing more than zero is an indication that laws are not being enforced. People can debate whether particular laws regarding drug use are justified. However, if enforcement itself is optional, one might reasonably question whether that applies to other, less controversial laws as well.
	▲	JuniperMesos 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You don't need that many crazy people on SF Muni/buses for it to cause a problem for everyone else who might want to take a bus. But yeah the fact that it's often faster to walk (and definitely faster to take a bike/scooter) is also an issue.