| ▲ | om(om-language.com) |
| 127 points by tosh 3 hours ago | 27 comments |
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| ▲ | irickt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| A more explanatory article mentioned in the post: https://evincarofautumn.blogspot.com/2012/02/why-concatenati... |
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| ▲ | mosburger an hour ago | parent [-] | | ah, thanks, that's why my first thought was that "hey, this feels very FORTH like" |
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| ▲ | esafak an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And that's how you write a landing page if you don't want any takers. |
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| ▲ | crystal_revenge an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It's clearly a language designed for people interested in programming languages. Plenty of straightforward examples to show what makes this language interesting/different/worth your time. But if you're incurious about things that aren't immediately practical (which has sadly been a growing number of HN community in more recent years), you will probably not be interested. In an era when so much "practical" coding can be offloaded to an LLM, I'm particularly interested in seeing languages that are doing something different even if it makes them initially impractical. | | |
| ▲ | einpoklum 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > In an era when so much "practical" coding can be offloaded to an LLM I see what you did there with the parentheses. |
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| ▲ | itishappy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't think the project wants any "takers" per se. The first sentence describes it as: > a novel, maximally-simple concatenative, homoiconic programming and algorithm notation language This is a toy language designed to showcase a novel programming paradigm. Personally, I like tech demonstrations, so I scrolled down and found the examples section. That's all I was hoping to get out of this interaction. | |
| ▲ | mpalmer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Life can be a dream if you don't treat everything as a pitch | |
| ▲ | codegeek an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I would at least update body tag to add basic css to make this more readable: <body style="width:80%;margin:auto;">
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| ▲ | leephillips 33 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There is nothing wrong with the site as it is. The text reflows, so you can size your window to any width that you find comfortable. With a decent window manager this is just a few keystrokes at most. |
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| ▲ | meisel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah show me the 5-line HTTP server | | |
| ▲ | theamk an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | not that kind of language, it does not even come with integer types or "plus" operator by default.. they do give an example of define { minutes { dequote choose {minutes} {} = {:} <-[characters] } } { minutes {1:23} }
which does Python's equivalent of "1:23".split(":", 1)[1]
or for a more direct translation: def minutes(x):
return x[1:] if x[0] == ':' else minutes(x[1:])
minutes("1:23")
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| ▲ | KPGv2 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | "The Om language is not: complete. Although the intent is to develop it into a full-featured language, the software is currently at a very early "proof of concept" stage, requiring the addition of many operations (such as basic number and file operations) and optimizations before it can be considered useful for any real-world purpose. It has been made available in order to demonstrate the underlying concepts and welcome others to get involved in early development." |
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| ▲ | staticassertion an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am always kind of surprised when I go to a landing page for a language and there isn't any actual code. This is one of my biggest complaints about the rust language page, it feels crazy to me that there's no code and I think this is just a ridiculous choice (and I know this has been brought up before). The old page had a built-in sandbox. Go used to have a more "Front and center" sandbox too but at least it's there if you scroll down https://go.dev/ | | |
| ▲ | chriswarbo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > I am always kind of surprised when I go to a landing page for a language and there isn't any actual code. So, you're not surprised that this Om page has an extensive section called "Examples", right? https://www.om-language.com/#language__examples__ | |
| ▲ | Anaminus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One time, this annoyed me so much that I made a website. https://anaminus.github.io/langding/ om would fall under "Yes, must scroll". | |
| ▲ | robotresearcher an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is code. Small examples start halfway down the page, and there's one 20-line example. Not much, but it's not accurate to say there's none. It would be helpful to see any kind of motivation for the project though. Anything at all. | | |
| ▲ | oblio 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | On my phone that code is about 250+ lines down, probably 4-5 screens down. It basically doesn't exist as far as marketing is concerned. |
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| ▲ | cess11 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is code, search for 'examples'. It concludes by implementing a fold: define
{
[Fold]<- {
rearrange
{
rearrange
{
dequote
choose
quote Result
pair pair pair {[Fold]<-} Function Result Remainder
Remainder
}
{Result Remainder}
dequote Function Base <-[terms] Source
}
{Function Base Source}
}
}
{
[Fold]<- {[literal]<-} {} {1 2 3}
}
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| ▲ | willquack an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I worked with Jason (creator of Om) at my last job. He's awesome! |
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| ▲ | omoikane an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > any UTF-8 text (without byte-order marker) defines a valid Om program. What is the behavior of a program with unmatched braces? I am not sure a stray `}` would fit any of the defined syntax. https://www.om-language.com/index.html#language__syntax__ |
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| ▲ | itishappy an hour ago | parent [-] | | That would be parsed as a single operator and evaluated using the following rule: > Evaluates to the operation defined for the operator in the environment. If none, evaluates to a constant function that pushes the operator, followed by all input terms, onto the output program. I believe it would simply output itself. |
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| ▲ | bittermandel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I confused this with https://github.com/omcljs/om |
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| ▲ | jb1991 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah Om was an extremely widely used Clojurescript library many years ago (maybe still is), and to me that's what this word will always refer to. |
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| ▲ | pgt 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Would recommend placing example language syntax above the fold. Was tough to have to scroll halfway down the entire site to see any syntax. Nobody cares about the EBNF syntax until they have a feel for the language. |
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| ▲ | jwilber an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Will never not complain about languages not giving code examples. It’s like writing a charting/UI/style library and showing no examples. Just what? |
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