| ▲ | Octoth0rpe 12 hours ago |
| > but I still think most people would try to do their best to avoid firing nukes. "most people" are not in the positions that matter. A significant portion of the people who are in a position to advocate for such a decision believe that: - killing people sends em to heaven/hell where they were going anyway; and that this is also true for any of your own citizens that get killed by a counterstrike. - the end of the world will be the best day ever |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > "most people" are not in the positions that matter If polling were to reveal a majority of either party were more open to nuclear strikes than their predecessors, that gives policy makers a signal and an opening. |
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| ▲ | Octoth0rpe 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | The current administration does not seem to be considering the majority within their own party considering how unpopular the current approach to immigration enforcement is. Or for another example, the glycophosphate/MAHA situation. | | |
| ▲ | xiphias2 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There were lots of administrations who could have said to other countries ,,let's get rid of the nukes together'' while USA was the only string power. Deescalation stopped because of people in general not caring enough (and making money of being the biggest power), not because of administrations that come and go. As to the immigration situation: we know that governments are not executing in general how they should be, but people are able to enforce some policies if they fight together united and in agreement. But right now they are not in agreement. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | > There were lots of administrations who could have said to other countries ,,let's get rid of the nukes together'' while USA was the only string power. There was only one administration with that opportunity, really; Truman. Every other administration has had a nuclear armed Russia in play. Attempts to do what you describe were still quite common, starting as early as the 1950s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_arms_race#Treaties | | |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > current administration does not seem to be considering the majority within their own party considering how unpopular the current approach to immigration enforcement is 55% of Republicans say ICE's efforts are about right; 23% think they don't go far enough [1]. There is limited evidence Trump has lost touch with his supporters on this issue. The question is if this is this GOP's pronoun issue–popular in the base but toxic more broadly. [1] https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/where-americans-stand-immigratio... |
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| ▲ | ryandrake 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There have always been a handful of Internet Tough Guys saying things on forums like "LOL Nuke them! hur hur hur hur!" Totally disregardable vibes and memes. Now, we have an actual US government administration that is run on the same Tough Guy vibes and memes. I don't think it matters what most people think. The people in power might just do it for the lulz. |
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| ▲ | goatlover 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| And yet the people in positions that matter have not fired a nuke since ending WW2. Even the craziest sounding regimes like Russia and NK. |
