It turns out the biggest threat to AI safety is capitalism, who would have thought

samplatt 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Certainly not the prior century-and-a-half's worth of books and films.

	▲	Thanemate an hour ago \| parent [-]
		And I still run into naysayers claiming that we cannot extract valuable opinions or warnings from fiction because "they're fictional". Fiction comes from ideas. Fiction is not meant to model reality but approximate it to make a point either explicitly or implicitly. Just because they're not 1:1 model of reality or predictions doesn't mean that the ideas they communicate are worthless.

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peyton 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t get it. Even the Soviet Union used money. Simply paying for stuff isn’t necessarily capitalism? Or are you suggesting Anthropic should be state-owned?

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jon-wood 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, capitalism is prioritising profit over all other priorities, as we see happening here.

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wongarsu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Using money as a medium to facilitate exchange of goods and services is not capitalism. Abandoning one of your core principles in the pursuit of money, or more charitably because not doing so means your competitors will make more money and overtake you in the marketplace is an outgrowth of capitalism

In the Soviet Union the reasons might have been "to beat the Capitalists", "for the pride of our country" or "Stalin asked us to and saying no means we get sent to Siberia". Though a variant of the last one may well have happened here, and the justification we read is just the one less damaging to everyone involved

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gibsonsmog 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>Though a variant of the last one may well have happened here, and the justification we read is just the one less damaging to everyone involved

Hegseth was planning on getting the model via the Defense Production Act or killing Anthropic via supply chain risk classification preventing any other company working with the Pentagon from working with Anthropic. So while it wasn't Siberia, it was about as close as the US can get without declaring Claude a terrorist. Which I'm sure is on the table regardless

	▲	addandsubtract an hour ago \| parent [-]
		And you know Claude will be on the hook for any bad "decision" the military makes. So this will end poorly for them, anyway.

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hiAndrewQuinn 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nick Land has basically been saying this since the 90s, if you can look past all the rhetoric

	▲	gom_jabbar an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly. He recently said the following in an interview: "AI safety and anti-capitalism [...] are at least strongly analogous, if not exactly the same thing." [0] [0] Nick Land (2026). A Conversation with Nick Land (Part 2) by Vincent Lê in Architechtonics Substack. Retrieved from vincentl3.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-nick-land-part-a4f