> I’m not sure why the Palestinians…

> That’s Hezbollah, Hamas…

Sleight of hand happening here.

There's no sleight of hand, just a horrifying reality. It's not just Hamas and Hezbollah. Civilians from Gaza participated in October 7 and poll after poll shows broad palestinian support for the destruction of Israel.

Support for Hamas itself is waning in Gaza due to their brutality, but Hamas began the war with broad support for their genocidal aims.

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prmoustache 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is kind of a dishonnest take. You make sure to avoid mentionning that hamas is not only a terrorist organization. It is also an administrative body which has been bringing employment and services to a significant portion of the palestinian population while they have been constantly under strict embargoes, restriction and aggressions for decades.

You can't really criticize people to support the only org that pretend to care about them while the whole world seem to be against their own existence. Most palestinians would just want to live a peaceful normal life but have been expropriated and forced to live in a ghetto. How convenient to feign surprise and indignation that same people would have resentment against those that have been making their life difficult and at risk. Israel created Hamas.

You can draw a parallel to say, part of the colombian population that was supporting Pablo Escobar when the Medellin cartel was providing services that the government was failing to provide to the poorest classes.

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richardfeynman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You wrote: "You make sure to avoid mentionning that hamas is not only a terrorist organization. It is also an administrative body which has been bringing employment and services to a significant portion of the palestinian population while they have been constantly under strict embargoes, restriction and aggressions for decades."

This sounds like: "You make sure to avoid mentioning that the Nazis are not just a genocidal army of aggression, intent on genociding Jews and taking over Europe. They are also an administrative body that bla bla bla"

I wasn't simply saying that there was broad support for Hamas among gazan civilians, I was saying there was broad support for the destruction of Israel and the crimes against humanity that Hamas, along with a broad contingent of Gazan civilians, perpetrated on civilians on October 7.

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prmoustache 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So that excuse perpetuating a much bigger crime and killing thousands of kids who never had their say. Rrrriiight.

What Israel government and IDF has been doing is an insult to the shoah victims. Any half decent jew should condemn the likoud.

	▲	richardfeynman 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I dispute your claim on genocide and the purposeful killing of kids. so the only impact your words have on me is that I see you inventing crimes My grandmother is a living Auschwitz survivor (one of the last, she's nearly 100). I'll let her decide what she thinks is an insult to Shoah victims.

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ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And would Israeli polling about Palestinians justify their deaths, too?

	▲	richardfeynman 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nobody is justifying Palestinian deaths, whatever that means. You don't know my position on the war, since I haven't articulated it here. I'm simply refuting your earlier claim that only Hamas and Hezbollah is dedicated to the destruction of Israel, while regular Palestinians are fine with it. Hopefully you have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge your earlier claim was wrong, and there was and is indeed broad support for destroying Israel and its civilian population among Palestinian civilians. And not just intellectual support, but concrete actions. Are you familiar with the "pay for slay" program?