Next is the worst framework I’ve ever used next to rails. It’s pure overhead for most apps.

lateforwork 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Try mvc-router, see here: https://github.com/wisercoder/mvc-router/tree/master/DemoApp...

React was originally meant to be the 'V' in MVC. You can still use it that way and React becomes very simple when you only use it for UI. Why do data fetching in a React component?

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JustSkyfall 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rails 8 is surprisingly good nowadays. It absolutely still has its share of problems (e.g. Bundler being slow, the frontend story being crappy without Inertia, lack of types which is a biggie, memory) but it is still a fantastic framework imo.

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dmix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why Inertia.js? I quite enjoy not using JS heavy frontends in Rails by leaning on Turbo and light Stimulus JS controllers where needed. My experience going hard into Vue+Rails was full of pain and I've rediscovered why server first makes everything easier to reason about instead of duplicating tons of logic + dealing with constant async issues (particularly around automated testing and complex data loading).

	▲	moviedo an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Inertia because it’s a plug-in replacement for ruby html templating aka erb. Try it out, it’s basically the same stuff you get from erb, without the need for Turbo’s web sockets. You get server side rendering, all the great BE stuff like server side validation, but no SPA headache. I find the best DX with Adonis/nodejs and typescript.

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igravious an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Somebody should port uv to Ruby :/

	▲	cheshire_cat 39 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It's called rv: https://github.com/spinel-coop/rv

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vlucas 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The basic premise of Next is good, but it definitely has more overhead that in should, has odd "middleware", and is very hard to optimize. I view this mostly as a React problem though since any page requires full hydration and ships everything to the client. RSCs are... not my favorite for sure.

I too have been very frustrated by this, and I made an "Astro for dynamic sites" TypeScript framework called Hyperspan ( https://www.hyperspan.dev ) that aims to fill the gap in the JS ecosystem for a modern fully dynamic option that, similar to Astro, makes dynamic islands easy. I have enjoyed using it in all my own projects. Check it out if you want.

	▲	switz an hour ago \| parent [-]
		RSC by design does not ship everything to the client. That's one of its basic premises. It ships markup, composed in client interactivity, but you can shed a lot of the code required curate that markup.

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neya 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If Rails is considered a worse framework, then I'm pretty much speechless. Not everything has to be about performance. Security is a thing too.

	▲	DoesntMatter22 35 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Rails powers nearly 15 percent of the US e-commerce. I love it. Any time I have to use another framework it feels like a huge downgrade. Rails has so many things that make it nice to use

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christophilus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s unbelievably terrible. I don’t understand its success at all, as much as I’ve tried.