| ▲ | tencentshill 4 hours ago |
| It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim. |
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| ▲ | 0_____0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There is no contingent in the US federal government that has a coherent plan for doing what you're talking about. The investment in capability that is necessary to build the next generation of manufacturing capabilities in the US is simply not within the public imagination. |
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| ▲ | mothballed 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think it's something that can be centrally planned well. If the US changes their environmental regulations to match China, lowered their tax-to-GDP ratio to match China, changed their worker regulations to match China, and then opened up free immigration from Mexico for cheap factory labor then the "free" market would likely take care of opening up quite a bit more manufacturing. | | |
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Hell, don't even match it. Split the difference and it would unleash a torrent of economic activity. It will never happen because there's too many industries and jobs that only exist because of all that regulation and will fight tooth and nail to avoid a short term haircut. |
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| ▲ | hn_acc1 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You mean, like FoxConn took $B from orange guy, promised 10K+ jobs, then sat on the land for a few years and did nothing? Sure, let's replicate that at scale.. | | |
| ▲ | Krustopolis an hour ago | parent [-] | | Things take time. Especially during the pandemic and its aftermath. How you been down to Arizona lately to see the developments? Not just the manufacturing itself but everything that has sprung up around it? It’s impressive. |
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| ▲ | daymanstep 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Managed to do what? | | |
| ▲ | nxm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | At least he’s trying. Instead of the other side just yelling about “corporate greed” while doing nothing but collecting lobbying money as jobs continue to get exported. | |
| ▲ | tokyobreakfast 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Build products in the US. Those jobs Steve Jobs told Obama are "never coming back". | | |
| ▲ | daymanstep 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Last time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025. | |
| ▲ | JohnTHaller 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Last time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025. It's gone down according to the official US numbers, as expected | |
| ▲ | hn_acc1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which of those have come back? | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Manufacturing output has been ~monotonically increasing except during the great recession for the past 3 decades. Jobs though have been basically monotonically decreasing. We're still getting the strategic benefits of more manufacturing, just have fewer people getting their thumbs cut off in stamping machines or melted alive in steel mills. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think "we" are getting benefits from more manufacturing. Surely the company CEOs and shareholders are, but the average Joe who doesn't hold shares and just needs an honest, well-paying job is not reaping any benefits. | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I view manufacturing to have some parallels like farming. An advanced society is eventually going to get the employment numbers down low through inevitable automation and technology. The goal then is to continue to enjoy having the food and things you made despite not being employed in those fields. How exactly that happens is up for debate. |
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| ▲ | throwaway894345 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | to be clear, the US has been rapidly losing manufacturing jobs since the orange coronation. |
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| ▲ | xienze 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| He’s at least getting companies to pretend like they’re going to try. That’s a starting point. Before, the best you’d get out of these CEOs is “LOL those jobs are never coming back, learn to code or whatever else hasn’t been outsourced fully yet.” |
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| ▲ | throwaway894345 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | His predecessor worked with Congress to actually bring microchip manufacturing back to the US and tried to keep us competitive with EV manufacturing (not to mention the infrastructure investments that are necessary for any serious manufacturing effort). Those were real commitments. Extorting CEOs to announce investments (like the Zuckerberg hot mic incident) is not worth anything to me. Meanwhile the US has been hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs for the last year. |
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