What in actuality was happening long-term is the increasing integration and cooperation of Gazans with Israel, reduction of tensions and hopes for eventual peace. Which is an existencial threat to Hamas.

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jeromegv an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Is that the same cooperation seen in the West Bank where Israel keeps sending settlers and make Palestine land smaller and smaller every single year?

I highly recommend to watch the Oscar winning movie “no other land”, for anyone that thinks that Israel would just let them leave in peace

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neoromantique an hour ago | parent [-]

Israeli settlers are despicable, but even in current government those who support them are minority freaks(who Hamas has empowered very much after October 7th).

Also it is a two way street, there is also a problem of Palestinian settlers, which while I do want to highlight is separate and in no way justifies the Israeli ones, is still a real problem and harnesses a lot of bad publicity when Israel destroys said illegal settlements.

	▲	umanwizard 22 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		What? Settlers are totally tolerated and supported by the state. Look at Ariel, it is a fully established town settled almost 50 years ago with a university that operates in every practical way as part of Israel. If you think the government doesn't support them, what would support look like?

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umanwizard an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gaza has been under a near-total naval blockade since 2007 (which is an act of war BTW). Any meaningful "reduction of tensions" would have included lifting that.

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neoromantique 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

The blockade that has been held up even by UN as legal blockade? Disarming of Hamas will has to come first, sorry.

-- Dang decided I should not comment and ratelimited me, fair enough. Response to the comment reply: It means that even if UN of all things could not figure out how to condemn Israel for it, then maybe, just maybe, the reasons for it were valid?

	▲	umanwizard 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That is an obvious lie, but also, even if it were true, who cares? It doesn't really matter what the UN thinks about anything.

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guerrilla 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's not a counterpoint to what I said.

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selimthegrim 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Uh, was this happening 1967-87? Because they were sure more integrated before the First Intifada