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sixtyj 4 hours ago

Well… it is happening. You can’t put spilled milk back to bottle. You can do future requirements that will try to stop this behaviour.

E.g. in the submission form could be a mandatory field “I hereby confirm that I wrote the paper personally.” In conditions there will be a note that violating this rule can lead to temporary or permanent ban of authors. In the world where research success is measured by points in WOS, this could lead to slow down the rise of LLM-generated papers.

asdfman123 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe we need to find a new metric to judge academics by beyond quantity of papers

tossandthrow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This approach dismisses the cases where Ai submissions generally are better.

I don't think this is appreciated enough: a lot of Ai adaptation is not happening because of cost on the expense of quality. Quite the opposite.

I am in the process of switching my company's use of retool for an Ai generated backoffice.

First and foremost for usability, velocity and security.

Secondly, we also save a buck.

moregrist 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> This approach dismisses the cases where Ai submissions generally are better.

You’re perhaps missing the not so subtle subtext of Peter Woit’s post, and entire blog, which is:

While AI is getting better, it’s still not _good_ by the standards of most science. However it’s as good as hep-th where (according to Peter Woit) the bar is incredibly low. His thesis is part “the whole field is bad” and part “Arxiv for this subfield is full of human slop.”

I don’t have the background to engage with whether Peter Woit’s argument has merit, but it’s been consistent for 25+ years.

zozbot234 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What about the new result that was recently derived by GPT 5.2 Pro/Deep Research? That was also hep-th. https://openai.com/index/new-result-theoretical-physics/ https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.12176

tossandthrow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My comment was more an answer to the proposed gatekeeping of science as a human activity.

Yes, Ai is still not good in the grand scheme of things. But everybody actively using it has gotten concerned over the past 2 months by the leap frigging of LLMs - and surprised as they thought we had arrived at the plateau.

We will see in a year or two if humans still hold an advantage in research - currently very few do in software development, despite what they think about themselves.

lioeters an hour ago | parent [-]

> gatekeeping of science as a human activity

The other side of the coin is: automating science as a machine activity.

Is that what we want? I agree with you that the use of language models in science is an inevitable paradigm shift, but now is the time to make collective decisions about how we're going to assimilate this increasingly super-human "intelligence" into academic practices, and the rest of daily life. Otherwise we will be the ones being assimilated by a force beyond our control.

The progress is so rapid that the only people who might have control over the process are the ones with self-interest, mainly financial, and not aligned with - in some aspects opposed to - the interests of humanity.