Remix.run Logo
ceejayoz 4 hours ago

I linked to an article from an Israeli news outlet citing the IDF considering that death toll to be accurate.

vibeprofessor 4 hours ago | parent [-]

haaretz is a left wing rag, they are just as trustworthy as hamas health ministry

ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And the IDF?

They're hardly the only ones reporting this.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/middleeast/israeli-military-g...

> Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth quoted military officials Thursday as saying, “We estimate that about 70,000 Gazans were killed in the war, not including the missing.” Kan 11, the country’s public broadcaster, attributed the information to the Coordinator of Government Affairs in the Territories (COGAT) and said there is now an effort to analyze how many of those killed were civilian or militant.

And the IDF ain't contesting it:

> “The IDF clarifies that the details published do not reflect official IDF data,” the spokesperson said. “Any publication or report on this matter will be released through official and orderly channels.” The spokesperson did not answer if the IDF held data about the number of Palestinians killed in Gaza or if such information would ever be released.

idop 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

1. Says the IDF accepted the fictitious 0-militants 100%-civilian death toll claim.

2. Links to a news report that has literally no source on its claims. Just says "IDF accepted" and that's it.

3. Links to another news report which does nothing but report on the previous news report as if this makes it credible.

4. Says IDF isn't contesting the report.

5. Proceeds to provide the only official, verifiable, sourced IDF quote about the report, contesting it.

The logical fallacies you're willing to accept in order to feed your hatred is impressive.

ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent [-]

1. No, it doesn't.

2. "Kan 11, the country’s public broadcaster, attributed the information to the Coordinator of Government Affairs in the Territories (COGAT)"

(That's a state-owned news outlet, to be clear; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kan_11)

3. See above.

4. Accurate.

5. Re-read that statement. At no point does it contest the toll.

idop 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Where is the source? Show me the actual source. Showing me that one news agency is reporting that another news agency reported something, with no way to verify anything in that chain, does and proves nothing. It's a claim with no backing.

The official quote clearly states "the details do not reflect official data". If you see it as "no contest" we're gonna have to chalk it up to cultural differences in parsing language.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> The official quote clearly states "the details do not reflect official data".

Officially, Israel has no nuclear weapons. (lol)

idop 3 hours ago | parent [-]

At the end of the day, you made a conscious choice to accept the claim that the IDF confirmed the death toll as truth, and to spread it online as such, despite not having any actual proof. That was Hamas strategy since 0day, long before Israel even managed to clear the last Hamas terrorist from its borders after the attack: just make anti-Israel claims. Just make them. Everybody will accept them, no questions asked.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

At the end of the day, I make the conscious choice to trust three different Israeli news outlets, CNN, the fact that the IDF isn't offering a different estimate, and satellite photos of the destruction in Gaza.

The IDF is most welcome to publish a claim and have it dissected. I would remind you we're on a thread where their "official data" fell apart because of direct video evidence of their war crimes obtained from their dead victims' phones.

vibeprofessor an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

yes, 70,000 Gazans, 50k of whom were males of fighting age, no other army managed to achieve such low civilian-to militants casualties ratio, under such extreme war conditions