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measurablefunc 6 hours ago

This time is different. The global system is not going to fall apart like isolated kingdoms in the past.

GolfPopper an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It will instead eventually fall apart in more thoroughly destructive ways. But not until it does a possibly-unrecoverably (at least in the medium term) amount of damage to civilization, humanity, and life on Earth first.

measurablefunc 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree but my point was that it will not be like any previous collapse.

dylan604 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You seem very confident. This seems to imply you feel the haves will know when to leave enough on the table for the have nots to still feel like they are a part of the haves. I'm not so confident in that.

atmavatar 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Far more likely is that we head back to a feudal era where data mining tech is used to identify and eliminate potential rabble-rousers. Once enough production is automated, all remaining have-nots are exterminated.

neuralRiot 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The weak link is that for “the haves” to have, the “have -nots” are needed. To have or to not is just a comparison, a millionaire needs the poor to be rich and to feel special otherwise when everyone is special nobody is.

measurablefunc 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People in technologically advanced societies have more than enough & the people who are not as advanced can not do anything that will have any effect on the people who own the fighter jets, missiles, robot factories, & "internet" satellites. The current system has no historical precedent. It is very close to an almost perfect panopticon w/ an associated media & police apparatus to keep everyone docile & complacent. Like I said, this time is different.

trinsic2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yep. There is too much infrastructure now. Its going to take a lot for this to end.

neuralRiot 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

“ Whatever it is you’re seeking won’t come in the form you’re expecting – Haruki Murakami”