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RobotToaster 4 hours ago

One of my banks uses a card reader and pin to log in, seems more secure.

microtonal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pins can still be phished. Just make the phishing a live proxy resembling the real site.

A fundamental difference with e.g. FIDO2 (especially hardware-backed) is that the private credentials are keyed to the relying party ID, so it's not possible for a phising site to intercept the challenge-response.

thefounder 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s just as bad. You need to take out the human error out of the equation.