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tptacek 7 hours ago

This is going to happen in a lot of places that aren't large enough to make news: people dumping Flock over bad publicity, and simply installing ALPR cameras from vendors smart enough not to get themselves embroiled in politics.

fusslo 7 hours ago | parent [-]

AXON seems to be really good about not pushing things too far. I don't know if they lobby/amplify the need for police body cameras, however. Even that, IMO, doesn't have the stench of evil

They must be making huge profits, assuming every bodycam needs some kind of recurring revenue (for evidence.com, maintenance, replacements). BUT as far as I can tell, they are also taking the judicial requirements very seriously. Unlike Flock, I haven't heard anything about AXON providing tools to circumvent the 4th amendment. In fact, AXON makes tools that make it easier to comply with the law. For example, record requests for bodycam videos are (again, afaik) easy to satisfy with their tech.

I don't know what ownership they have of videos stored on their services. Can they use it for LLM training? can they sell anonymized data? do they? no idea, but trust in Flock is at about a 0 out of 10.

reactordev 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AXON wrote the book that Flock put into practice. They have really great lobbyists that shield them from any news.

tptacek 6 hours ago | parent [-]

And yet you can see on this thread people saying this is a good thing, because Axon is the good kind of ALPR company and Flock is the bad kind. This is just WWF rooting interests, not public policy.

kylehotchkiss 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Standardized bodycam implementation nationwide was a fantastic improvement to policing post-2020. Axon seems to be king of that coast to coast. Watching bodycam video on YouTube has improved my perception of the police from "often unethical jerks" to "wow, I can't believe the nonsense these people have to deal with". Asshole cops now have to justify their behavior before judges and their bosses in a way maybe they didn't before.

Freedom of Information requests to axon seem to be given our somewhat freely given how large the bodycam genre on Youtube is.