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mapt 12 hours ago

Why was this flagged? Automatically / without review? This is a novel tech story, albeit one without a lot of technical detail.

https://www.earshot.ngo/what-we-do/audio-ballistics

https://forensic-architecture.org/

https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

> Earshot used echolocation to analyze the audio on the recordings in order to arrive at precise estimates of the shooters’ locations. Echolocation is the process of locating the source of a sound based on an analysis of the sound’s echoes and the environment in which the sound travels. The Israeli military destroyed and cleared so many buildings in the Tel Al-Sultan area where the ambush of the aid workers took place that very few structures remained. This destruction actually strengthened Earshot’s ability to determine the positions and movements of Israeli soldiers, based on identifying the surfaces responsible for clearly distinguishable gunshot echoes. Rather than having multiple buildings reflecting the sound waves, there were only a few standing walls and the emergency vehicles themselves.

> “Earshot forensically analyzed over 900 gunshots fired at aid workers. It took one whole year of careful listening to reconstruct an auditory picture of what happened that dark night,” Lawrence Abu Hamdan, the director of Earshot, told Drop Site.

I'm not sure how much this was actually necessary to the eventual verdict if this is ever adjudicated, though, if "hiding the evidence" is a factor:

> Following the ambush, Israeli forces crushed all eight vehicles using heavy machinery and attempted to bury them under the sand.

> The body of Anwar al-Attar was found near the ambush site on March 27, and the bodies of the other 14 aid workers, all wearing identifying uniforms or volunteer vests of their respective organizations, were found in a mass grave near the site on March 30.

But the understanding that they were advanced upon in a walking wave of fire, and then the survivors were executed one by one at close range, may help.

lma21 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

austin-cheney 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see.

This is discernible by watching how long it takes stories like these to reach a flagged state on the new submissions page. It is further evident by watching which comments within those submissions get flagged based upon their upvotes and visibility.

Guid_NewGuid 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed, and try suggesting there should be minimal accountability for flagging[0] and you'll likewise be flagged. Sure maybe the data says there's not some cartel flagging conspiracy but it starts to seem awful suspicious that even reasonable discussion of this misfeature gets flagged.

0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44962005

themafia 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> on the new submissions page

What if they only act once it reaches the front page?

dang 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=flags%20off%20turn%20by%3Adang...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443

therobots927 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You always have plenty of excuses when you get called out. Looking the other way while bot armies mass downvote pro Palestine / anti ICE / anti PayPal mafia content is complicity. I’m sure you have the data to suss out what is obvious to anyone watching these threads in real time.

johnfn 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Think about what you are saying for a moment. Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles? Don't you think it's a much more reasonable conclusion that people read the site guidelines[1], which clearly say that political posts are off-topic, and then flagged for that reason instead?

There are a million places to discuss politics online. If I wanted to discuss politics, I would go to any one of them. Claiming any HN moderator is 'complicit' in atrocities is absurd.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ceejayoz 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles?

Turn on showdead and you'll find much, much weirder wastes of time here.

glenstein 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In 2026 I don't for one second think it organized inauthentic activity is implausible. I think in fact it's probably pretty extensive these days, though I'm not especially sure about penetration of HN in particular. But everything from marketing to state actors to organized political actors to anarchic but politically motivated online groups are mobilized to influence online forums and I think these phenomena are reasonably well characterized by academic research. It can also be people who aren't organized but abuse flagging out of political commitments.

I also don't think your read of it as an organic outcome of a post that obviously violates guidelines is the natural conclusion here, I actually think that interpretation strains credulity more. Where I agree is that I don't think moderators are being heavy-handed on issues like this, but I do think high level political events do merit attention at least once in a while and I don't think the HN pattern has been toward oversaturation.

And in terms of things that make this story unique, I think it's the highest standard of specificity I've ever seen in reporting of this kind, it's using impressive technological reconstruction of the scene, it's actually quite unlike typical news reporting on the topic and it's hosted on a platform that was YC-incubated, and I think DropSite News is in an ascendant moment as a major news breaker. There's lots to talk about here imo.

Guid_NewGuid 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean doesn't your take strain credulity as well? Let's actually think where most discussion happens these days, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, the few remaining newspaper comments sections. I'd struggle to list more off the top of my head.

Why wouldn't influence campaigns, we know every big country to be running, target this site? What reason would they have to leave it out from their list? Why not target a major news forum for the more wealthy and connected (predominantly) Americans in tech? This is not an uwu smol bean site anymore and the cost of (undetectably) botting any given site is rapidly approaching cents.

johnfn an hour ago | parent [-]

I just see the same thing over again. I flag some article, then later I look at the comments and everyone is saying "rah rah there's a cabal of vote bots that flag articles". Obviously not - it was me? Is it so unthinkable that normal people on HN are flagging political articles because they are explicitly disallowed by the site guidelines?

lyingliarsg 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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modsareliars12 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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lyingfireb 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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therobots927 5 hours ago | parent [-]

11 minutes and you’re almost totally grayed out. Wild that they think this type of suppression isn’t blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain.

ebbi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It's desperation at this point. With each passing day, the truth comes out in clear, non-negotiable detail, and therefore the desperation to hide and/or deflect increases.

JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn’t flag. But the top comments are nothing to do with the tech, and aren’t dissimilar from any Gaza War commentary online.

asdfss674564 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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