Option 3: don't

▲ input_sh 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Then you right-click on the AI button and click on "remove", but that's a whole different discussion than what you asked in the previous comment.

It's also why I really don't understand the need for a kill switch to begin with (other than pleasing annoying users), you don't need to wait for it. You can already get rid of the chatbot integration, there's a remove button already. It's also kind of annoyingly easy to misclick it, so they're just gonna remove it from those places and put it away in settings and those same annoying users will consider that a win.

▲ shakna 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because what people want is not an opt-out, like Mozilla have given, but an opt-in.

This is the grudging half-measure.

Many would have preferred the updates to come with a form asking for on or off. It didn't, so they complained, and this was the answer.

▲ mort96 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why can't you people who want a ChatGPT sidebar just add that as a plugin?

▲ input_sh 5 hours ago | parent [-]

"You people"? Take a look at my comment history and see my takes on AI please, but this is like the least harmful way of integrating it and yet "you people" are the loudest about it.

Can you do the same on Windows? Is it tucked away in settings on macOS? Can you disable it on Google? Can you disable it anywhere else? Why are you the most vocal about the integration that is literally the easiest to turn off? You need two clicks to do it right now, you're gonna need at least three once this kill switch is in settings.

▲ mort96 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The AI boosting from the likes of you is the reason Mozilla is sinking Firefox by turning it into an "AI browser". I don't want anything to do with that.

I would've been equally outraged about Windows becoming an "agentic OS" if I had been a Windows user. I don't like what Apple is doing to my phone and laptop, but at least they haven't promised to make the iPhone an "AI phone".

More than one thing can be bad at a time, and right now, this conversation is about Mozilla. We can have a conversation about other bad things some other time.

▲ input_sh 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The AI boosting from the likes of you

Again, look at my comment history. I'm not discussing AI-as-a-whole because as you've pointed out it's not the topic of this discussion. I'm discussing how trivial it is to turn off as opposed to literally anywhere else, and that's not even discussing the provider choice you don't get anywhere else.

There's a whole section in macOS/iOS settings titled "Apple Intelligence and Siri" with ChatGPT being the only option, and you're seemingly happy with that compromise. Yet here you are complaining about an integration that's even easier to turn off and allows you to pick between 5 providers. There is literally no way of triggering it that doesn't immediately show you the "turn it off" button as it is right now (as in before this update reaches me).

I also invite you to go to firefox.com right now and find me a single mention of AI, since you for some reason are imagining that it is being advertised as an "AI browser".

	▲	mort96 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> There's a whole section in macOS/iOS settings titled "Apple Intelligence and Siri" with ChatGPT being the only option, and you're seemingly happy with that compromise If you read my comment again, it might occur to you that no, I'm not happy with what Apple is doing to iOS and macOS: `I don't like what Apple is doing to my phone and laptop` > I also invite you to go to firefox.com right now and find me a single mention of AI, since you for some reason are imagining that it is being advertised as an "AI browser". Is mozilla.com OK? If so, here you go: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next... `Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.` "It will evolve into a modern AI browser". I don't want an AI browser, modern or otherwise.

▲ godelski 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They aren't AI boasting, they just don't agree with you. Stop pretending everyone is your enemy

	▲	mort96 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They're describing a chat bot side bar as a useful feature that belongs in a browser, as a feature that's enabled by default. That's AI boosting (not boasting).