The money being a red herring is a convenient excuse to say “surveillance capitalism is fine because there’s already a legal path to this dystopia and this idea fits right in”. These capital interests have shown even if there is a legal path to stop they will ignore it and try to circumvent it. So the money isn’t a red herring because the money is being used to bypass the legal pathway to stop the deployments.

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tptacek 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This comment is one very long sentence and because it replies to me I'm sorry to have to say I'm not smart enough to understand what it's saying. Did you try to get an ordinance enacted in your municipality and fail? I'd love to hear how that went, and maybe offer advice.

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throwway120385 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

FWIW this is probably the most matter-of-fact series of statements from a commenter about Flock or about the democratic process that I've seen in years on this site.

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righthand 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You’re very clearly defensive about defending flock installs, but yeah I will go back and edit my comment to clarify. Apologies your majesty for forgetting some punctuation while I was sick.

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tptacek 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm defensive about defending Flock installs? I'm one of a small minority of HN commenters that has actually gotten Flock cameras disabled across a municipality.

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npilk 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For what it's worth, your original comment is a little hard to parse, particularly because you say "our pilot deployment" which makes it sound like you were involved in deploying the cameras. Combined with your realpolitik comment about knowing your neighbors want them, I think several people are confused about your opinions and what you ended up doing to fight the cameras.

	▲	tempest_ an hour ago \| parent [-]
		It isnt that hard to parse and it is very clear what position the commenter holds they state it > I'm not reflexively anti-ALPR camera. I don't like them Even LLMs can correctly parse this commenters intention.

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righthand 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh sorry I can’t read more than 1 sentence so I don’t know what I’m replying to, you’ll have to reword yours.

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patmorgan23 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reading comprehension my dude.

The money isn't the problem, deploying surveillance measures without Democratic involvement is.

Idk how you come out of the top comment thinking they were or flock.