| ▲ | Terr_ 5 hours ago |
| > broken and smashed Flock cameras I wonder how resistant the cameras are to strong handheld lasers. I suppose they could harden them against some common wavelengths with filters, but that'd affect the image clarity in normal use. |
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| ▲ | 0_____0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I have worked with watt class lasers before and I implore you not to do this. Even if it's tempting. Most places where there are surveillance cameras are places where there are also people, and unless you want to hand out OD5 goggles to everyone in eyeshot... a pellet gun would be safer. |
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| ▲ | hinkley 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My friend in college did an internship on high frequency, short pulse beams (I wanna say violet and picosecond? Which I still think was exotic at the time). Most of his work was dealing with and accounting for reflections that left the machine. If you have a prism that’s sending 95% of the light where you want it to go, when it’s a multi watt laser you can’t just let that 5% go wherever it wants. You will blind someone. So his job was getting black bodies in all the right spots to absorb the lost light. His safety goggles looked like even more expensive Oakleys of that era and they were (much more expensive). | | |
| ▲ | cyberax 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The amount of safety when working with lasers is ridiculous. And for a good reason, you can get permanent eye damage faster than the blink of an eye. Please, don't play with lasers. At all. Even supposedly "safe" lasers can output far more light than expected. | | |
| ▲ | flowerthoughts 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not to mention the ones that have peaks in invisible parts of the spectrum. | |
| ▲ | hinkley 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Another friend’s favorite saying is, “do not look into laser with remaining eye.” |
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| ▲ | palata 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unrelated, but I really want to take the opportunity: How can one know what is dangerous for the eyes or not? Years ago I got an "IR illuminator" (from aliexpress, probably) that I wanted to use with my raspberrypi NoIR camera, for fun. Say filming myself during the night to see how much I move while sleeping, or making my own wildlife camera trap. But I was scared that it could be dangerous and never used it (I tested it in an empty room, but that was it). Is there a safe way for a hobbyist to get an IR illuminator and be sure that I won't make somebody blind with it? | | |
| ▲ | duskwuff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | IR illuminators are not lasers. Their purpose is to cast light across a broad area, not to deliver it all to one point. They should not be harmful to vision. | |
| ▲ | elictronic 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Buy from a reputable dealer. I don’t buy batteries, lasers, or items I ingest from locations lacking any repercussions. |
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| ▲ | Terr_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Most places where there are surveillance cameras are places where there are also people I assume you're concerned about reflections from the camera lens or housing? In my mind, the archetypal camera is mounted on a nice tall pole, silhouetted against open sky, and painted matte black. > watt class lasers Surely those would be excessive for someone attacking the sensor, unless they want to remotely sear some graffiti by burning away paint. | | |
| ▲ | hinkley 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hitting the lens at an oblique angle won’t fry the sensor though? You have to get close to the cone of visibility which is then within the bloom area. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Please do not encourage people to go shining bright lasers at small targets from long distances right next to busy roads. This is a nerd fantasy thing, but it's a really bad idea. It's hard to hit a tiny lens from a distance and it only takes one slip of the hand to shine it straight into traffic or someone walking down the sidewalk. |
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| ▲ | JKCalhoun 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe pick up one [1] and experiment with it. If I had some spare change I would love to grab one just to hack it. [1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/297938376075 |
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| ▲ | nancyminusone 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do not do this. |
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| ▲ | tclancy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Comments in the sub-$200 LiDAR thread suggested those would play merry havoc with a camera too. |
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| ▲ | kotaKat 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Last I recall they’re just a crappy 5 megapixel Arducam camera module based on teardowns. https://www.cehrp.org/dissection-of-flock-safety-camera/ https://www.arducam.com/product/arducam-ov5647-noir-camera-b... |
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| ▲ | daemonologist 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lol that's almost literally the cheapest possible option. You can get these for $3-4 (on a board and with a mipi cable and everything) from China - I have a dozen in a box that I bought to test out a camera array idea before shelling out for nicer sensors. | | |
| ▲ | kotaKat an hour ago | parent [-] | | The best part is seeing someone tear a Flock camera apart, see the camera, and immediately go slap it on their 3D printer and hook it into their Pi and just have it work out of the box ;) |
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