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hinkley 4 hours ago

There are five million Irish in Ireland and something like 75 million “Irish” in the US. And Chicago has more Polish that Warsaw, but that’s actual expats and their kids. Not great great great grandchildren of Margaret and John who came over in 1845.

necovek 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This source puts that number at 35M of people with "some" Irish descent: https://overlandirelandtours.com/blog/why-are-there-more-iri... — that means that most of them probably have some other heritage too.

People say similar stuff about Serbians in Chicago (how it's the second biggest Serbian city after Belgrade), but usually all of that is overestimated significantly. Just like people overestimate their local city population (most in Belgrade claim it has 2M people when census on a metropolitan area gets us to 1.57M).

ajxs an hour ago | parent [-]

People say a very similar thing about the number of Greeks in Melbourne, Australia.

lo_zamoyski 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> There are five million Irish in Ireland and something like 75 million “Irish” in the US.

Reminds me of this sketch. [0]

> And Chicago has more Polish that Warsaw, but that’s actual expats and their kids.

This is one of those persistent myths. While Chicago has many Poles and people of Polish ancestry living there, it has never exceeded the population of Warsaw. And New York has more Poles than Chicago.

[0] https://youtu.be/xzlMME_sekI

hinkley 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The reason I like to use the Polish example is that I got it straight from a Polish dissident, and a second one didn't correct me when I repeated it to him later.

Nobody has official numbers on populations that are a mix of documented and undocumented people. But I trust members of those groups and their relatives probably have a better estimate, even if it's offset by not having a degree in statistics.