>"None of this is an argument against protecting children online. It is an argument against pretending there is no tradeoff"

Tradeoff acknowledged, and this runs both sides, there's hundreds of risks that these policies are addressing.

To mention a specific one, I was exposed to pornography online at age 9 which is obviously an issue, the incumbent system allowed this to happen and will continue to do so. So to what tradeoffs in policy do detractors of age verification think are so terrible that it's more important than avoiding, for example, allowing kids first sexual experiences to be pornography. Dystopian vibes? Is that equivalent?

Or, what alternative solutions are counter-proposed to avoid these issues without age verification and vpn bans.

Note 2 things before responding:

1)per the original quote, it is not valid to ignore the trade offs with arguments like "child abuse is an excuse to install civilian control by governments"

2) this was not your initiave, another group is the one making huge efforts to intervene and change the status quo, so whatever solution is counterproposed needs to be new, otherwise, as an existing solution, it was therefore ineffective.

If any of those is your argument, you are not part of the conversation, you have failed to act as wardens of the internet, and whatever systems you control will be slowly removed from you by authorities and technical professionals that follow the regulations. Whatever crumbs you are left as an admin, will be relegated to increasingly niche crypto communities where you will be pooled with dissidents and criminals of types you will need to either ignore or pretend are ok. You will create a new Tor, a Gab, a Conservapedia, a HackerForums, and you will be hunted by the obvious and inequivocal right side of the law. Your enemy list will grow bigger and bigger, the State? Money? The law? God? The notion of right and wrong which is like totally subjective anyways?

> I was exposed to pornography online at age 9....allowing kids first sexual experiences to be pornography

I was initially exposed to pornography at 8 years old, by finding a disgarded magazine in a hedge. However this was pretty soft.

I was exposed to serious pornography at 10 years by finding a hidden VHS tape in the back of a drawer at a friends house and getting curious. This was hardcore German stuff with explicit violence. This has caused me to have therapy in my lifetime.

This was all in the 80s by the way.

Therefore anything you are mentioning happened long before the internet, and is totally possible in a completely offline world as well. So how do these new digital laws 'protect children' again?