| ▲ | everdrive a day ago |
| "The real story here isn't Hetzner being greedy. It's that AI companies are vacuuming up every DRAM chip on the planet and the rest of us get to pay the tax." We might also have our aquifers depleted and our electricity prices skyrocket. But at least we see really great benefits, such as being able to script some side-project while unemployed due to AI. |
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| ▲ | daxaxelrod a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Anyone who thinks modern data centers don’t use recirculated water can safely have their opinions summarily discarded. |
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| ▲ | Betelbuddy a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Data centers consume...a lot...of water by design, recirculated water, does not means no water consumption.
Water must be continuously added in evaporative cooling systems used by many data centers. [1] - Cooling towers reject heat through evaporation, which uses water, not just recirculates it. Evaporated water is lost to the atmosphere and must be replaced with "make-up" water. As a result, recirculating cooling loops still require new water input to make up evaporation and blowdown losses. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling_tower | | | |
| ▲ | b40d-48b2-979e a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Anyone who thinks that modern data centers don't evaporate their "recirculated FRESH water" straight into the ocean can safely have their opinions summarily discarded. | |
| ▲ | estimator7292 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Please google "datacenter evaporative cooling" and then re-evaluate | | |
| ▲ | 15155 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Whoa: is this the only possible form of cooling? What if there were a cooler that somehow didn't evaporate water, you might even call it a "dry cooler" - that would be a sweet invention. This might even be required in areas where adiabatic cooling isn't effective (humid climates)! | | |
| ▲ | MathMonkeyMan 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Even if the ambient relative humidity is near 100%, water's latent heat of vaporization is nothing to shake a stick at. I like the idea of a giant heat pump into the ground, but heat exchangers are expensive and so is digging. |
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| ▲ | timcobb 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Grim |
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| ▲ | 0xy 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >aquifers depleted Oh it's this thoroughly debunked talking point again. https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake |
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| ▲ | dzhiurgis 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | I just can't believe how HN turned into disinformation / propaganda machine over last few years. Pretty much every topic is politics and disconnected from reality. | | |
| ▲ | millzlane 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Can't stop calling it out when you see it. The internet is being used for good and for evil. <tinfoilhatoff> |
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