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oblio 9 hours ago

Upside: he's learning?

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Indeed, and as a school those 18 months are well worth it, but it is in many ways also 18 months wasted. There is a strong sense of NIH with the Ladybird dev(s), and I wonder if that isn't their whole reason for doing this.

I've seen another team doing something similar, they went through endless rewrite cycles of a major package but never shipped, and eventually the project was axed when they proposed to do it all over again, but this time even better.

rjh29 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

The sense of NIH is from Serenity, and that was probably the reason for Jakt's existence too. Now it's spun off into its own project there is a lot more pragmatism.

jacquesm 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well, here's to hoping because we really need a stand-in for FF. I realize the irony here in terms of that being the ultimate 'NIH' project but that one I can get behind because the browser landscape is much too fragile. Of course they might end up taking users away from FF rather than from Chrome, Edge or Safari.

rjh29 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

In case you didn't know they're using a lot of third-party libraries now for pretty major things: libcurl for http, Skia/Harfbuzz for rendering, libxml, OpenSSL, ffmpeg, etc:

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/tree/8017f8a7ed3...

The core browser engine, JS/CSS/layout etc will always be original.