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ozgune a day ago

These changes are effective April 1st for existing and new customers. The price increase ratios are also different across product lines.

* Cloud (VMs): 38%

* Bare metal: 15%

* Memory add-on for bare metal: 575% (effective immediately)

It feels like memory add-on is intentionally set high to discourage customers from adding more memory.

AX102 (128 GB RAM) costs €124, AX162 (256 GB RAM) costs €244, but the 128 GB memory add-on alone costs €264. If we ignore the setup fee, it’s more cost-effective to provision additional servers instead of adding RAM to bare metal instances.

Here's the link to cloud and bare metal pricing changes: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi...

jsheard a day ago | parent | next [-]

> * Memory add-on for bare metal: 575% (effective immediately)

> It feels like memory add-on is intentionally set very high to discourage customers from adding more memory.

Memory prices are so stupid now that 575% is pretty close to their actual costs.

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

DDR5-6000 2x32GB: ~$200 -> ~$1000

rozenmd a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you seen the price of RAM recently?

embedding-shape a day ago | parent [-]

AFAIK, it's been stabilizing lately at the current price, so at least it's not increasing anymore: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

By the same time next year the prices likely gone down, although maybe not to the pre-increase, but surely much lower than currently. Putting it in my calendar to revisit this comment in a year :)

Forgeties79 a day ago | parent [-]

Stabilized at 5x (or more), a change that occurred over like 3mo.

Grocery prices have also stabilized but I’m still paying too much ha

embedding-shape a day ago | parent [-]

Well, if all the doomers and gloomers were correct that this is the end of hardware at home, we'd see the price continue to increase, and suppliers trying to ramp up production, even if it'd take long time.

The fact that it stabilized (at whatever price) and that suppliers aren't even thinking about ramping up production, should tell people that the doomers and gloomers were yet again over-reacting to things they don't fully understand themselves.

> Grocery prices have also stabilized but I’m still paying too much

I think that's a local problem, if you happen to live in a country that's trying to move over to isolationism rather than globalism as of late. In other modern countries the prices are also increasing, but at least following inflation somewhat so the increase doesn't seem as bad for us. Maybe at least yet? Who knows.

jeroenhd a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Well, if all the doomers and gloomers were correct that this is the end of hardware at home, we'd see the price continue to increase, and suppliers trying to ramp up production, even if it'd take long time.

Ramping up production takes months and paying back the price to ramp up production takes years. Manufacturers have started investing in more production capacity but it'll take a while before supply can be sold off.

Based on interviews with industry professionals, I believe the forecast is that RAM prices will start going down again between August and the end of next year. Until then, prices will climb as stock depletes and RAM production is capped.

embedding-shape a day ago | parent [-]

> Manufacturers have started investing in more production capacity

Where are you getting this from? Because that's not what I've seen, if anything the industry seems to lowering the production capacity, not increasing it.

And even if it takes years, if they thought it was a sustainable growth in demand, they'd at least be moving in that direction which again, doesn't seem to be happening.

> I believe the forecast is that RAM prices will start going down again between August and the end of next year. Until then, prices will climb as stock depletes and RAM production is capped.

You're already wrong with this today, prices stopped climbing already and have been stabilizing at the current prices... https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

Forgeties79 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Smart money says by Jan 2026 ram prices will not be anywhere near where they were 6mo ago, but we’ll see I suppose.

ed_mercer a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> * Memory add-on for bare metal: 575% (effective immediately)

I don’t see this anywhere, source?

ozgune a day ago | parent | next [-]

I used Hetzner's pricing calculator.

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax162-r/configu...

Before today, we used to be able to order an AX162-R for €207 and add 128 GB of RAM for €46. Starting today, the same calculator provides €207 for an AX162-R (*) and €264 for the 128 GB RAM add-on. Sadly, HN doesn't let me upload screenshots.

(*) The price change for AX162-R machines is effective starting April 1st.

embedding-shape a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, not sure where they're getting those from.

From the Robot UI, I tried ordering a new EX44 or EX63:

- EX63 comes with 64 GB DDR5 by default, can be upgraded to 192 GB DDR5 ECC for added €42.35

- EX44 comes with 64 GB by default, can be upgraded to 128 GB DDR4 Non-ECC for added € 16.94 max. per month

ffsm8 a day ago | parent [-]

> These changes are effective April 1st for existing and new customers.

Checking today doesn't really indicate anything.

It's worth noting that the hardware price of RAM is up at least 550% yoy, so this was always going to happen as soon as their existing contracts had to be renewed

embedding-shape a day ago | parent [-]

> > These changes are effective April 1st for existing and new customers.

I thought the "effective immediately" mean that April 1st threshold wasn't for the memory...

ffsm8 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Mmh, true...

I suspect there are errors on their announcement anyway, I mean there are rows like this on it

    GEX131 (256 GB RAM) 1232,05
    GEX131 (512 GB RAM) 1230,82
    GEX131 (768 GB RAM) 2114,75
Which would mean the 256 version is slightly more expensive then the 512.

Hetzner often feels more like a mom-and-pop store then a corporation because of stuff like that