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vdupras 11 hours ago

This comment raises an interesting question: Would Serenity OS have brought Andreas the same kind of serenity had it been developed with AI? Open candid question.

rjh29 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I like the idea that people are either coders or builders. So AI can help fulfill your desire to build, create, bring things into reality. But it can't satisfy you if you like programming for its own sake. SerenityOS was not a practical project, it was clearly done for the enjoyment of programming itself.

The project's use of AI now echoes that - it's not being used to create new features, it's used for practical, boring drudge work of translating between two languages. So still very much on brand.

Imustaskforhelp 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think so because if I remember it correctly, Andreas suffered from alcoholism and serenity prayer helped him to go on the right path and iirc he honored that and created an os named serenityos.

God grant me the serenity

to accept the things I cannot change;

courage to change the things I can;

and wisdom to know the difference.

(courage to change the things I can;):- I think that this line must've given Andreas the strength, the passion to make the project reality.

but if AI made the change. Would the line be changed to courage to prompt an all powerful entity to change the things I asked it to.

Would that give courage? Would that inspire confidence in oneself?

I have personally made many projects with LLM's (honestly I must admit that I am a teenager and so I have been sort of using it from the start)

and personally, I feel like there are some points of curiosity that I can be prideful of in my projects but there is still a sense of emptiness and I think I am not the only one who observes it as such.

I think in the world of AI hype, it takes true courage & passion to write by hand.

Obviously one tries to argue that AI is the next bytecode but that is false because of the non deterministic nature of AI but even that being said, I think I personally feel as if the people who write assembly are definitely likely to be more passionate of their craft than Nodejs (and I would consider myself a nodejs guy and there's still passion but still)

Coding was definitely a form of art/expression/sense-of-meaning for Mr Andreas during a time of struggle. To automate that might strip him of the joy derived from stroking brush on an empty canvas.

Honestly, I really don't know about AI the more I think about it so I will not pretend that I know a thing/two about AI. This message is just my opinion in the moment. Opinions change with time but my opinion right now is that coding by hand definitely is more meaningful than not if the purpose of the project is to derive meaning.