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OtomotO 4 hours ago

No crusades for one populae example.

More advancements... No being opposed to actual enlightenment, because it doesn't sit well with the institution of power...

I am talking about a real man of science here of course, not some egoistic, smart person that needs to be constantly prove they are the smartest or else their frail ego will collapse... Which there are plenty of in academia and science.

simmerup 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So you'd rather have Europe be Islamic I guess, if you're opposing the crusades

tsimionescu an hour ago | parent | next [-]

How exactly is not supporting a series of wars of aggression against the Ottoman Empire equivalent to wanting Europe to be Islamic?

coryrc 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Crusades resulted in Christians being nearly wiped out from the Eastern Mediterranean. Particularly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade

And started(?) Jews being killed in Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres

OtomotO 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't care either way to be honest...

I'd prefer Satanism for sure, but I don't really care.

wolvesechoes 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But why man of science would avoid starting crusades?

Moral virtue has nothing to do with being a man of science, and many men of science lacked it completely.

curtisblaine 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly. We tend to forget that the crusades were an efficient way of assigning land (scarce) to the cadet branches of ruling families (abundant), or die trying.

thevillagechief 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would a Catholic man of science necessarily oppose the crusades?