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carshodev 5 hours ago

It's not unfair its how every business works. When your product is new or not yet good enough and you want people to try it you give them discounts, or if you want to drive traffic to your service you also do the same.

Even traditional businesses do this with coupons. Is it unfair that Costco sells chickens for under cost because it drives usage to them?

Companies like Uber did use massive funding and price subsidization to try and kill competition and then take a monopoly, but it is hard to assert that this is what google is doing now. And given that other competitors in the space, Anthropic are doing the exact same thing again its not as though they are alone.

Also they could be subsidizing it because they want that usage type as it helps them train models better.

Chatgpt and gpt4 were all ran at a loss and subsidized people just didn't know that. Almost all of the llm companies have been selling 1 dollar of llm compute for 50 cents as they valued the usage, training data, and users more than making profit now.

This next generation of MOE and other newly trained models. Like opus 4.6, Cursor Composer 1.5, gpt 5.3 codex, and many of the others have been the first models where these companies are actually profitably serving the tokens at the api cost.

This year has been the switch where ai companies are actually thinking of becoming profitable instead of just focusing on research and development.

marcus_holmes 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'd agree with you if this was some new SaaS just opening its doors.

But Google are banning entire accounts, with years, even decades, of personal history, photos, even phone accounts and app development projects.

They very easily could just negate the anti-gravity access, which would be much, much more reasonable.

Thorrez 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>But Google are banning entire accounts, with years, even decades, of personal history, photos, even phone accounts and app development projects.

Source? It seems to me only the anti-gravity access was blocked. The link says

> Our product engineering team has confirmed that your account was suspended from using our Antigravity service.

> there’s no way we can restore our accounts to use Antigravity anymore yeah?

Disclosure: I work at Google, but not on anything related to this.

fasbiner 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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MattRix an hour ago | parent [-]

This is a really weird response man. No need to get so judgy and personal.

Besides, as far as I can tell what they said is true. The users are losing access to Antigravity, not to their entire Google accounts. So you’re getting mad at this guy just for stating facts.

jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's not unfair its how every business works.

Not. On both counts.