I don't understand. Everyone's been saying LLMs are gonna get cheaper and cheaper, to the point where it's almost free to operate. Clearly becoming profitable won't be a problem... so they can't be subsiding that much...

Are you telling me a bunch of people on Twitter and HN are full of shit?

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_pdp_ 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are not totally full of it.

But state of the art models are not free. GLM 5 and Kimi K2.5 are both open-source and they are much better models than the ones we used to pay for a year ago. Now we get them for free. This is certainly having an effect on all model providers which either need to adjust to new market realities or risk to loose market share and we know which thing they are not going to do.

	▲	scuff3d 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You might get access to the model for free. The hardware to do anything useful with it certainly isn't. Anthropic and Google shutting down access to their API for third party tools, OpenAI inserting ads into the platform... I'm sure it will stop here. Absolutely no more fuckery. And all these huge LLM companies are going to go from burning literally billions (in some case trillions) to being insanely profitable without putting the screws to users. We definitely aren't going to see the same pattern that's played out across essentially every other platform play out again... Nope definitely not.

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famouswaffles 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Model costs have gone down orders of magnitudes in the last few years, and google would stop something like this no matter how profitable Gemini was or wasn't. It's a blatant misuse of their terms.