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blibble 6 hours ago

> A while back I made completely separate Google accounts for YouTube and Maps just so my longstanding Gmail account wouldn't get banned if the system somehow detected that my Youtube account for example breached Google's TOS.

I bet you that if they ban one they ban the other too

the only safe way is to get your important data out of Google entirely

after manifest v3's announcement, I de-googled: gmail, chrome, search, google cloud, photos, family on android phones

2 years later, it's all gone, except youtube

and if they ban that I don't care

neilv 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I bet you that if they ban one they ban the other too

Related: I've had a suspicion that, if you have an Apple or Google app developer account through a company (in your name and recovery phone number, but company email address)... and you leave the company... you'd better hope that someone at the company doesn't then use the account to do something sketchy or rule-breaking.

Someone inheriting the account is a very real possibility, given motive (people can be lazy about figuring out how to set up the account for another developer, or not want to pay another fee), and opportunity (professionalism norm is to preserve all passwords/secrets in a way that is accessible to the company).

josephcsible 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's worse than that. Google will ban you just because someone you've previously worked with has gone onto do something they don't like: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30855065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28730283

londons_explore 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Linked bans pretty much only happen if you use the same recovery phone number or email address.

Other ways of linking an account, such as having both logged in on the same phone, don't put you at risk.

qmarchi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Disclaimer: Former Googler

Yeah they do. There's an entire mesh of metrics that are used to calculate your relation to separate accounts.

It's the confidence tolerance that keeps you and your partner from getting banned together.

jacquesm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> There's an entire mesh of metrics that are used to calculate your relation to separate accounts.

> It's the confidence tolerance that keeps you and your partner from getting banned together.

Thanks for that bit of info, the degree of disgusting that google would be tracking who people's partners are is off the scale invasive and should be a reason for an immediate complaint to the various data privacy authorities.

joshuamorton 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you're vastly misunderstanding that comment.

jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Thus spake the Googler... sorry, but I think I understand it just fine, I think it is you that is not understanding it properly but since your salary depends on not understanding it properly I won't blame you for that.

joshuamorton 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll be more explicit,

> google would be tracking who people's partners are

is a misunderstanding of that comment. Nothing they said implies that Google is tracking who people's partners are. You're welcome to have whatever opinions you are about companies, but I'd also hope that you're careful not to read conspiracies into places where they aren't stated, especially in about institutions you have preconceptions about.

DANmode 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who did you move to from Gmail? How’d you make out?

driverdan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not OP but I moved to Fastmail. It has been great, I haven't missed Gmail at all.