| ▲ | tovej 3 hours ago |
| Censoring foreign political influence and misinformation campaigns is just sane policy. US misinformation is no different from Russian misinformation. freedom.gov is specifically meant to spread this misinfo, freedom of speech is the stated purpose, but if you believe that, you are naive. This is obviously an influence campaign. |
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| ▲ | JohnLocke4 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| How exactly does a proxy spread misinfo? Also, the project isn't even functional yet and appears to have been blocked to avert piracy |
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| ▲ | AnimalMuppet 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, it certainly allows and enables the spread of misinformation. That is, what's blocked? Things that people consider misinformation. Some of it really is, and some of it is just stuff that's politically unpopular with the powers that be (which they're also going to label misinformation). And then some of it falls afoul of various copyright laws or other such. But certainly real misinformation is a significant chunk of that. The proxy enables that misinformation (and disinformation) to bypass the censorship/blocking. So in that sense, yes, it spreads misinformation. | | |
| ▲ | JohnLocke4 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I agree. I just don't agree with misinformation not being protected as free speech. Surely having an INGSOC decide what is truthful enough to be shared is detrimental to free expression and thought. Heliocentrism was also misinformation at one point. | | |
| ▲ | tovej an hour ago | parent [-] | | Ok, let's use the more accurate term: disinformation. This is what this site is built for. Even the premise of the site is disinformation. Europe does not currently censor much of anything on the internet very strictly. We can still access X, 4chan, 8kun, kick, etc., and all the absolutely vile discourse on them. Not to mention our homegrown nazi breeding grounds. But a site which will presumably be used to curate a selected list of far-right propaganda? By the US govt? That propably needs to see pushback. |
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| ▲ | rvnx 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It has a name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime The solution to disinformation is not censorship, it's education and to teach early people on how to critically think by themselves. |
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| ▲ | SpecialistK 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's "thoughtcrime" and "censorship" when they do it. It's "stopping disinformation" and "protecting democracy" when we do it. | |
| ▲ | tovej 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Oh please. If a known bad actor is trying to influence your polity, the best solution is to block them. This does not mean people should not also be educated. That critical thinking is also what leads me to the conclusion this should be blocked. | |
| ▲ | 13415 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Believe it or not, removal of content is mandated on the basis of laws that have been passed by the majority of representatives elected by the people. For example, it is a crime in Germany to publicly glorify wars of aggression and use Nazi symbols or deny the Holocaust. It's also a crime to publish child abuse material. On a side note, setting up a website deliberately designed to circumvent such laws will itself likely violate the law and might lead to criminal prosecution. While the US government will certainly be protected by diplomatic immunity, other people involved probably won't be protected. |
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| ▲ | AnnikaL 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Should the Spanish government decide what is "misinformation"? Should it be forbidden to read false or misleading statements on the Internet? |
