> But I think that you've fundamentally misunderstood the appeal of Emacs. It has little to do with the key-bindings, or even any particular part of the user interface.

You mean the default keybindings for readline and macos? I think you're greatly overestimating the extent to which you can speak for other emacs users. I love the default keybindings and never even thought to change them, and I very much understand being leery of the lisp runtime. The modal editing of vim, doom etc always struck me as pointless typing and too much like issuing commands rather than making typing an extension of your fingers.

This isn't for me (electron—blah; I have microemacs etc), but I 100% get it.

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xigoi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Vim keybindings are not optimized for typing, but for editing.

	▲	skydhash an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah! For typing, you could use cat and be done with it. But you think about editing, then ed(1) start to make sense. You think about it a little more and ex(1) makes sense. You want better visual feedback and vi(1) is born. And then you want more programming features and you’ll get vim. Emacs is what you get when you sidestep the whole process with something as versatile as lisp. Instead of being economical with commands, you just create the specific actions you want