> there's already some plants out there synthesising them directly from green sources

I didn't realize that a "green" carbon atom is different from a regular carbon atom. They both result in CO2 when burned.

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jeffbee an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Its the time shift. Burning a plant releases CO2 and it is still considered to be carbon neutral.

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TheSpiceIsLife 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And, the two major byproducts of burning hydrocarbons are water and carbon dioxide.

Literally essential plant nutrients, essential for life.

Tangentially related, the 2022 Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai volcanic eruption ejected so much water vapour in to the upper atmosphere, it was estimated to have ongoing climate forcing effects for up to 10 years.

Water vapour is a stronger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

And we heard precisely nothing about that in the media other than some science specific sources at the time and nothing on an ongoing basis.

From Wikipedia:

The underwater explosion also sent 146 million tons of water from the South Pacific Ocean into the stratosphere. The amount of water vapor ejected was 10 percent of the stratosphere's typical stock. It was enough to temporarily warm the surface of Earth. It is estimated that an excess of water vapour should remain for 5–10 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Hunga_Tonga%E2%80%93Hunga...

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robertjpayne an hour ago | parent [-]

Please, the media didn't report on this because natural disasters affecting the climate is not controllable by humans and thus doesn't warrant a global effort to address unless it's so large as to be species ending.

Global warming is not fake, there's tons and tons of evidence it is real and the weather is getting more and more extreme as humans continue to burn petrol.

	▲	nandomrumber an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yes, and it doesn’t fit the narrative. We should be moving towards being able to terraform Earth not because of anthropogenic climate forcing, but because one volcano or one space rock could render our atmosphere overnight rather uncomfortable. You won’t find the Swedish Doom Goblin saying anything about that. > burn petrol. Well yeah, so making electricity unreliable and expensive, and the end-user’s problem (residential roof-top solar) is somehow supposed help? Let’s ship all our raw minerals and move all our manufacturing overseas to counties that care less about environmental impacts and have dirtier electricity, then ship the final products back, all using the dirties bunker fuel there is. How is that supposed to help? I mean, I used to work for The Wilderness Society in South Australia, now I live in Tasmania and am a card carrying One Nation member. Because I’m not a complete fucking idiot. Wait till you learn about the nepotism going on with the proposed Bell Bay Windfarm and Cimitiere Plains Solar projects. I’m all for sensible energy project development, but there’s only so much corruption I’m willing to sit back and watch. With the amount of gas, coal, and uraniam Australia has, it should be a manufacturing powerhouse, and host a huge itinerant worker population with pathways to residency / citizenship, drawn from the handful of countries that built this country. And citizens could receive a monthly stipend as their share of the enormous wealth the country should be generating. Japan resells our LNG at a profit. Our government is an embarrassment.
	▲	jeffbee an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Also some time after that other guy copied and pasted his canned Hunga remark into his big spreadsheet of climate denial comments the international community of climate scientists concluded that Hunga cooled the atmosphere, on balance. "As a consequence of the negative TOA RF, the Hunga eruption is estimated to have decreased global surface air temperature by about 0.05 K during 2022-2023; due to larger interannual variability, this temperature change cannot be observed." https://juser.fz-juelich.de/record/1049154/files/Hunga_APARC...