I have such mixed feelings about the EU right now. This battery initiative is definitely a good idea, but I am not onboard with their constant attempts at censorship.

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peterfirefly 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is the member states -- and the voters in the member states. The EU is only a coordination mechanism for those states. It's nothing like the federal layer of the US, or the federal layer of Germany for that matter.

Many member states want censorship. Many MEPs want censorship.

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progfix 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you mean exactly with censorship?

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peterfirefly an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Why is it punishable by law in Denmark to state that sub-Saharan African countries have average IQs around 70 and that it is hard to create functional democracies in countries with average IQs below 90?

The first substatement is backed by decades of empirical evidence. The second has much newer backing but the curves actually show the cut off value to be around 95 so saying 90 is a much weaker statement than there is evidence for.

Why has it recently become illegal to burn Qurans in Denmark? Considering the immoral and dangerous contents of that book, it would make a lot more sense to ban Muslim worship instead.

(None of this comes from the EU. It is a specific member state that criminalizes certain speech acts on its territory out of its own volition -- and as a result of violence from Muslims.)

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misnome an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Lol why is it always such a predictable list of gripes

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peterfirefly an hour ago | parent | next [-]

So I am not wrong but you don't like it?

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tolerance an hour ago | parent [-]

If I were to tell you that the examples you selected depict you as a bigot how would you react?

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gruez 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Freedom of speech is exactly for unpopular (or "bigot") opinions. You don't need freedom of speech to protect you from saying that puppies are cute.

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peterfirefly 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

That's exactly what I would expect from someone as tolerant as you.

	▲	tolerance 32 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Hit the showers!

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deaux an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, quite predictable for someone to give actual examples when asked for examples.

If you have other examples, go on and share them!

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Hendrikto an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

We punish people for saying the truth. In Germany we fined a man for calling a fat politician fat. Which she definitely is, morbidly so. Stuff like that.

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V__ an hour ago | parent [-]

Because insults can be fined. That is a German law though, not an EU thing.

	▲	peterfirefly an hour ago \| parent [-]
		A bigger issue than the fine (which Much didn't have to pay because he won in court) is that the police thought it was a swell idea to search his house. The fine was wrong, too, and the amount (6000€!) was absurd. https://brusselssignal.eu/2024/03/german-businessman-cleared... She should have challenged him to a duel instead. That would have been a lot more fair than mobilizing the state to fight battles that should never have been fought AND it would have put the risk where it should have been, namely on her shoulders (and stomach and thighs) instead of on his. Another insulcident happened in January 2024: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ricarda_Lang&oldi... The German police thought it was within its rights to demand that a foreign social media platform hand over identifying information on a user that apparently called her "well-rounded" in a less polite manner. I don't think the German police should search citizen's houses or demand identifying information about people who say things that aren't nice (but true).