| ▲ | alephnerd 2 hours ago | |||||||
> Probably the best thing that could happen for their security would be an above ground nuclear weapons test to get everyone off their back. Then KSA makes a nuke. Then Turkiye. Then the UAE. Then Egypt... > It's not like surrending their program is going to save them, just ask Gadaffi about how it worked out for him. Oh wait Yep. But it will reduce the risk of us using scorched earth tactics to deindustrialize and collapse Iran as a warning to other countries. A managed transition to amenable leadership (clerical or secular) and complete US or EU control of Iran's nuclear program would be good enough for us. > it's not like they're the ones starting the nuclear race in the region: that one's on Israel Take up Israel's nuclear program with the French, not us Americans - it was De Gaulle who sent his nuclear engineers to build Israel's nuclear program in the 1950s-60s [0]. We could not denuclearize Israel on time in the 1970s, just like we can't denuclearize China, India, Pakistan, or North Korea. This is also why Israel was treated as a pariah state by the US from the 1970s-90s [1][2][3]. The US-Israel relationship only took off in the 2000s under Clinton 2 and Bush. [0] - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000271219.pdf [1] - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86T01017R0001007... [2] - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP91-00561R0001000... [3] - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00965R0008072... | ||||||||
| ▲ | mullingitover 2 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
> Then KSA makes a nuke. imho that's the real endgame anyway, the US is just hired muscle to beat up KSA's regional rival, and eventually when the US is done collapsing and retreating to isolationism KSA will do a big show of their nuclear weapons. If KSA wants a nuke they'll get it, and the US politicians they've purchased will all applaud them for the accomplishment. | ||||||||
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