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parineum 6 hours ago

None of these three things are related.

SCOTUS doesn't rule on criminal cases, sentencing for state level crimes is done at the state level and he could have still run for president in jail.

The fact that the conviction only made his polling go up should tell you what the result of jailing him would have been.

ceejayoz 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> SCOTUS doesn't rule on criminal cases…

SCOTUS ruled that the President has immunity from criminal prosecution.

(And they very regularly rule on other, more mundane criminal cases. Where on earth did you get the idea they don't? https://oklahomavoice.com/2025/02/25/u-s-supreme-court-tosse... as a super random example.)

> sentencing for state level crimes is done at the state level

SCOTUS ruled that said immunity applies to state crimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States#Opinion...

This was... rather large news.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/10/trump-unconditional...

> “This court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of judgment of conviction without encroachment on the highest office of the land is a sentence of unconditional discharge,” Merchan said at the sentencing.

> The fact that the conviction only made his polling go up should tell you what the result of jailing him would have been.

We have precisely zero information on what a campaign by a jailed candidate who can't travel, campaign, or schmooze donors would result in.

parineum 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> SCOTUS ruled that the President has immunity from criminal prosecution. > SCOTUS ruled that said immunity applies to state crimes.

And yet he was criminally prosecuted.

> And they very regularly rule on other, more mundane criminal cases.

Sorry, they don't convict in criminal cases.

> “This court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of judgment of conviction without encroachment on the highest office of the land is a sentence of unconditional discharge,” Merchan said at the sentencing.

You're conflating things again. He was not punished for his crimes. That doesn't mean he was not convicted. You can't be immune and convicted. If he was immune, the case would have been thrown out. He's still a felon and so, clearly, not immune.

The immunity granted by SCOTUS was far more limited in scope than news outlets would have you believe.

> We have precisely zero information on what a campaign by a jailed candidate who can't travel, campaign, or schmooze donors would result in.

This time it will be different, surely!

ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> And yet he was criminally prosecuted.

BEFORE THE RULING.

Come on.