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munk-a 8 hours ago

The majority of American voters can be as dumb as they want - the two big failures here are the legislature and the judiciary. The judiciary let an obviously illegal thing sit for far too long while the legislature is too partisan to actually take actions against the administration (except in the case of the Epstein files which has been surprisingly admirable and a rare ray of light in the last year).

If the majority of American voters elect snoopy the dog snoopy can do all of the things snoopy wants to do within the bounds of the law. Snoopy can use his bully pulpit to fight against dog restrictions in restaurants and grant pardons to previous offenders. Snoopy can ensure efficient spending of money on public water fountains accessible to canines... but if snoopy starts issuing open hand-outs to the red baron (snoopy in a moustache) that's when the other branches of government are supposed to step in - we aren't supposed to need to wait four years for the next election to stop open corruption (especially since corruption is really good at funding more corruption so there's a vicious cycle that can begin if you let it fester @see the recent FBI raid on GA election offices).

andsoitis 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you arguing voters in a democracy are not even a little responsible for the outcomes of their vote?

munk-a 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, they're absolutely responsible and will suffer a fair amount of consequences for their votes. But the legislature should have stopped the bleeding a long time ago.

doka_smoka 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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maxwell 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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hackyhacky 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If snoopy starts issuing open hand-outs to the red baron (snoopy in a moustache)

You mean like how President Trump just gave 10 billion USD of taxpayer money to a board operated by Private Citizen Trump?

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/trump-board-of-peace-firs...

munk-a 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean like that and dozens of other excellent examples that should have caused the legislature to remove him from office. Trump coin alone (including all the shady World Liberty Financial funding) should have been worth the boot and that happened on like day two of the administration.

mrguyorama 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The legislature is made up of representatives voted in.

Republicans who wanted to prevent Trump from doing this kind of shit were voted out.

This is what the voters want.

hackyhacky 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes and no. It's a mistake to look at political representation as a pure expression of voters' will.

Gerrymandering keeps extreme politicians in office. Partisanship gets people to vote against their own interests. Media gravitates toward spectacle rather than substance, to the benefit of those that know how to use that; and social media in particular entrenches deeper into preconceived biases.

In short, manipulating voters is a profitable business. Electoral results are the output of that business, and voters are just the instrument.