When a corporate does something good, a lot of executives and people inside will go and claim credit and will demand/take bounces.

If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail.

I don't defend both positions, I am just saying that is not far from how the current legal framework works.

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eru 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail.

We do! In many jurisdictions, there are lots of laws that pierce the corporate veil.

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cj 5 hours ago | parent [-]

its surprisingly easy to get away with murder (literally and figuratively) without piercing the corporate veil if you understand the rules of the game. Running decisions through a good law firm also “helps” a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piercing_the_corporate_veil

	▲	eru 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Eh, in the US you don't even need a company nor a lawyer, a car is enough. See https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1q9xx1/is_it_ok... or similar discussions: basically, when you run over someone in a car, statistically they will call it an accident and you get away scot-free. In any case, you are right that often people in cars or companies get away with things that seem morally wrong. But not always.

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jacquesm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hence:

> It's externalization on the personal level

Instead of the corporate level.

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kingstnap 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well the important concept missing there that makes everything sort of make sense is due diligence.

If your company screws up and it is found out that you didn't do your due diligence then the liability does pass through.

We just need to figure out a due diligence framework for running bots that makes sense. But right now that's hard to do because Agentic robots that didn't completely suck are just a few months old.

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jacquesm 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's easy: your bot: your liability.

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hvb2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If your company screws up and it is found out that you didn't do your due diligence then the liability does pass through.

In theory, sure. Do you know many examples? I think, worst case, someone being fired is the more likely outcome

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gostsamo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it isnot hard. You are 100% responsible for the actions of your AI. Rather simple, I say.

	▲	jacquesm 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly.