There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

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chromehearts 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?

	▲	deaux 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's concerning that someone from the EU is still asking this question. How is there any doubt left in you? Yes, of course both are adversarial countries, and shouldn't be treated all too differently. In the short-term, the US is the bigger threat, as they've shown they're much more willing to use the power they have to cut off access than China.
	▲	Cieric 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		As someone from the US I would suggest viewing both as adversarial. I don't really trust my own government, but if I was born abroad I would trust them even less.
	▲	hxugufjfjf 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		You absolutely can. We see a huge uproar in European enterprises against US software/vendors/etc. Many companies are halting their cloud migration because they are now worried that the current US government could decide to just pull the plug or something otherwise inane.
	▲	victorbjorklund 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		And to be fair only US is openly hostile to EU.
	▲	stodor89 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		As someone from the EU, please do!
	▲	chpatrick 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I don't know why you're being downvoted, the US has been way more belligerent towards the EU recently than China.

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Numerlor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wouldn't having an adversarial country to be spying on you be the better option for you personally? At least privacy wise, not using your machine as some infiltration point, as the country you reside in has many more opportunities to abuse the data

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victorbjorklund 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like US saying EU is its adversary and spying on it? Trump had been pretty clear that he sees EU as a threat while China and Russia is not.

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victorbjorklund 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And don’t forget that ICE sees both non-citizens and citizens as the enemy if they don’t agree with Trump.

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fulafel 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, in the headlines the agencies playing adversaries to the common folk are definitely mainly chinese... /s