| ▲ | nickorlow 8 hours ago |
| US can probably use their soft power to influence them not to do that. Also would imagine the US gov could also set up some more censorship resistant access methods. |
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| ▲ | shaky-carrousel 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| In the same way they used their soft power to influence them not to block twitter and facebook? Because that power is slowly going from soft to limp... |
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| ▲ | crossroadsguy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| At this point US has close to zero (if not negative) "soft" power. |
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| ▲ | coliveira 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is what democrats and Hollywood are for. Some people still believe in them. | |
| ▲ | rtkwe 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trade and tarriff relief are an option still. Despite how shitty the US has been and the distrust that will cause in the future access to US markets will be very attractive until the economy collapses. Soft power isn't just from countries liking you after all. | | |
| ▲ | crossroadsguy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Access to US market? Is that a joke you are trying to crack? An “access” that literally depends upon how loud the orange fool farted on the commode that morning — that access and that market? I mean do you really not see what’s happening or you are just being a nice contrarian? Because this baffles me. | |
| ▲ | micw 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Would be a good reason for the EU to start a 200% tariff for US software and cloud services then. | | |
| ▲ | sssilver an hour ago | parent [-] | | How would this work? Wouldn't a reciprocal tariff with identical parameters by the US against EU tech companies completely obliterate EU tech landscape? | | |
| ▲ | microtonal an hour ago | parent [-] | | Most EU tech companies probably have primarily European customers (given that services export from the US to the EU is much larger than the other way around). Second, all those EU customers are looking for EU alternatives that do not have a huge tariff. Reciprocal tariffs would (for the EU) hurt export of goods much more, since that is where the EU has a large surplus. | | |
| ▲ | sssilver 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The number of tech companies matters less than their scale. SAP, Spotify, and Dassault Systèmes likely have more economic impact than ten thousand tiny software shops combined. And notably, all three derive a huge portion of their revenue from the US market. |
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| ▲ | happymellon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Trade and tarriff relief are an option still. That surely is running out of steam. Everyone's got whiplash from trying to watch America and it's tariffs. How do you know it won't be applied anyway, or forgiven for whatever flavour of the day policy it changes to. There is very little point in conceding to it when you'll have another opportunity for something else that might be more amicable before the inks dry on that tariff. | |
| ▲ | riffraff an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Trade and tarriff relief are an option still Are they though? Trump tried to use them to get ownership of Greenland a few weeks ago and just gave up. Then he tried to bully Canada again, and also gave up again. I think at this point nobody takes his offers of relief or threats seriously anymore, since any deal you make can be invalidated a couple weeks later. |
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| ▲ | throwerefg 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | copperx 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Which soft power are you talking about? |
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| ▲ | petcat 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think we're all aware that EU is trying to become more independent, but as of right now basically everything they do online, or really anything with technology at all, is American in some way. That's a lot of "soft power" and it will take decades, maybe a century, for EU or UK to replace it. | | |
| ▲ | XorNot 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Tarrifs cost US consumers not EU consumers. If the US wants to ban AWS from operating in the EU that's just going to accelerate the shift away, for example. | |
| ▲ | computerthings 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | kulahan 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sure, it's decreasing under Trump, but to pretend the richest, most militarily powerful, most culturally influential nation on the planet somehow doesn't have any soft power is... certainly a choice. | | |
| ▲ | pornel 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Republicans are spending all of US's remaining soft power on stealing Greenland. If it ends with the Navy showing its non-soft power, Europe won't have any fucks left to give about some website. | | |
| ▲ | kataklasm 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | We already don't. We want the Americans to pack up their bases and fuck off. Ami, go home! They've done enough work to stir up chaos and war all over the planet in the last 7 decades. |
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| ▲ | polski-g 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Anyone who wants to trade in USD. Protection of maritime trade routes. Nuclear shield. Netflix, YouTube, Nvidia, OpenAI, Amazon. | | |
| ▲ | microtonal an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | To be honest, only the last few holdouts in Europe still believe in the US nuclear shield. The fact that Germany is trying to make a deal with France should tell you everything. Netflix, YouTube and OpenAI are completely meaningless and we could drop it tomorrow. NVIDIA and AWS are a different story. The only problem is that once things become transactional (as opposed to mutually trusting allies), Europe can leverage ASML and possibly ARM. So it doesn’t bring much soft power anymore, only mutually assured economic destruction. | |
| ▲ | XorNot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What sort of soft power do you imagine Netflix represents? It exists but it's not leverage. |
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| ▲ | ascorbic 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No government can stand up to the might of La Liga |
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| ▲ | ohyoutravel 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Well, maybe USAID could have helped here. Or a robust State Dept. |
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