Remix.run Logo
jacquesm 19 hours ago

Not without some major breakthrough. What's hilarious is that all these developers building the tools are going to be the first to be without jobs. Their kids will be ecstatic: "Tell me again, dad, so, you had this awesome and well paying easy job and you wrecked it? Shut up kid, and tuck in that flap, there is too much wind in our cardboard box."

overgard 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Couldn't agree more, isn't that the bizarre thing? "We have this great intellectually challenging job where we as workers have leverage. How can we completely ruin that while also screwing up every other white collar profession"

entrox 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Why is it bizarre? It is inevitable. After all, AI has not ruined creative professions, it merely disrupted and transformed them. And yes, I fully understand my whole comment here being snarky, but please bear with me.

Let's rewind 4 years to this HN article titled "The AI Art Apocalypse": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32486133 and read some of the comments.

> Actually all progress will definitely will have a huge impact on a lot of lives—otherwise it is not progress. By definition it will impact many, by displacing those who were doing it the old way by doing it better and faster. The trouble is when people hold back progress just to prevent the impact. No one should be disagreeing that the impact shouldn't be prevented, but it should not be at the cost of progress.

Now it's the software engineers turn to not hold back progress.

Or this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34541693

> [...] At the same time, a part of me feels art has no place being motivated by money anyway. Perhaps this change will restore the balance. Artists will need to get real jobs again like the rest of us and fund their art as a side project.

Replace "Artists" with "Coders" and imagine a plumber writing that comment.

Maybe this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34856326

> [...] Artists will still exist, but most likely as hybrid 3d-modellers, AI modelers (Not full programmers, but able to fine-tune models with online guides and setups, can read basic python), and storytellers (like manga artists). It'll be a higher-pay, higher-prestige, higher-skill-requirement job than before. And all those artists who devoted their lives to draw better, find this to be an incredibly brutal adjustment.

Again, replace "Artists" with coders and fill in the replacement.

So, please get in line and adapt. And stop clinging to your "great intellectually challenging job" because you are holding back progress. It can't be that challenging if it can be handled by a machine anyway.

tovej 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The premise of those comments, just like the premise in this thread, is ridiculous and fantastical.

The only way generative AI has changed the creative arts is that it's made it easier to produce low quality slop.

I would not call that a true transformation. I'd call that saving costs at the expense of quality.

The same is true of software. The difference is, unlike art, quality in software has very clear safety and security implications.

This gen AI hype is just the crypto hype all over again but with a sci-fi twist in the narrative. It's a worse form of work just like crypto was a worse form of money.

entrox 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I do not disagree, in fact I'm feeling more and more Butlerian with every passing day. However, it is undeniable that a transformation is taking place -- just not necessarily to the better.

topocite 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I just don't understand this line of thinking.

Gen AI is the opposite of crypto. The use is immediate, obvious and needs no explanation or philosophizing.

You are basically showing your hand that you have zero intellectual curiosity or you are delusional in your own ability if you have never learned anything from gen AI.

rXwubXUGAm 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm assuming they all have enough equity that if they actually managed to build an AI capable of replacing themselves they'll be financially set for the rest of their lives.

metaltyphoon 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a feeling they internally say "not me, I won't be replaced" and just keep moving...

oxag3n 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Or they get FY money and fatFIRE.

danny_codes 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Still risky if you have no labor value anymore.

arcxi 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it the first time when workers directly work on their own replacement? If so, software developer may go down in history as the dumbest profession ever.

moron4hire 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Well son, we made a lot of shareholder value."