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delichon 3 hours ago

> The state should prosecute people who make illegal thing, not add useless surveillance software on every tool in every classroom, library, and garage in the state.

This bill is analogous to requiring text editors to verify that a document does not contain defamation, fraud, incitement, fighting words, child porn, etc., before it saves the file. In first amendment terms that led to the conclusion that prior restraint on publication is incompatible with the amendment. The same doctrine should be extended to the second amendment for the same reasons. The alternative is intolerable surveillance.

WillAdams 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

1st Amendment + 2nd Amendment == The Right to 3D Print and Bear Arms

Moreover, how could this be implemented? Determining the 3D volume which a given G-code file will result in is something which the industry would find very useful, but no one has yet achieved. Doing so would probably simultaneously result in the folks doing so being awarded a Fields Medal and the Turing Award (in addition to making a boatload of money licensing the resultant software/patent).

On top of that, how does one resolve the matter of the same G-code file (for two nested circles plus some machine-specific codes) resulting in either a metal washer, or a lamp base, depending on whether run on a machine set to metric w/ a coolant system, or Imperial w/ a tool changer?

Lastly, who creates the list of forbidden parts? How will it be curated? And most importantly, how will it be secured that it isn't a set of blueprints which are then used to make firearms?

A more reasonable bit of legislation would be one which required folks who are barred by statute from owning firearms (convicted felons (who have not had their rights restored)/convicted of misdemeanor domestic abuse) to approve with their parole officer any file for a part/object made by a 3D printer or CNC machine before submitting it to the machine.

tracker1 an hour ago | parent [-]

I'll be honest, I've always been mixed on prohibiting parolees and ex-cons from owning firearms in the first place. I think the right itself as part of self-defense is pretty clear and self-evident. I also don't like secondary crimes in general.

Killing is bad... killing because you don't like $group is double-bad. Speeding is bad, speeding without a seatbelt is double-bad. etc.

If you are such a danger to society that you shouldn't be allowed to be armed in case of defense, then you probably shouldn't be in society and remain locked up. That's just my take on it. I feel similarly on taking away voting rights after prison as well. I may not like how you vote, but I'm just not a fan of taking away people's rights outside prison/jail.

bb88 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Here's an interesting story about a non-violent felon becoming violent in my city. Not all felons are this way, but this one was.

Oh and yeah, people are allowed to open carry guns in the statehouse here.

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/boise-mall-shooter-d...

WillAdams an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Too expensive/punitive, and note that there is an option to be restored to full citizenship after time served/restitution is made.

My take on it is that if your judgement is so twisted that you are able to commit a felony and not be able to successfully petition for rights restoration, then you are not suited to deciding by whom the country should be governed.

tracker1 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Have you actually looked into what it takes to restore full citizenship in many places? In some locations it means having to get the Governor to act on your behalf. Imagine what it would take to even get in contact with the Governor of a largely populated state, let alone trying to convince them that you should have your rights restored.

Your judgement is twisted if you think that's a reasonable expectation for anyone who has served their time.

cbdevidal 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s political theater. Not intended to actually accomplish much except “See!? We did something! Now vote for us again.”

Meanwhile, open source printers can and will just bypass it.

ottah 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

3d printing is also a creative expression and part of free speech. However principles don't matter to authoritarians, and really the only defense is constant political pressure and civil disobedience.

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