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| ▲ | cubefox 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| The early version of Gemini 2.5 did initially show the actual CoT in AI Studio, and it was pretty interesting in some cases. |
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| ▲ | ukuina 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Agree the raw thought-stream is not useful. It's likely filled with "Aha!" and "But wait!" statements. |
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| ▲ | FergusArgyll an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| They hide the CoT because they don't want competitors to train on it |
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| ▲ | orbital-decay an hour ago | parent [-] | | Training on the CoT itself is pretty dubious since it's reward hacked to some degree (as evident from e.g. GLM-4.7 which tried pulling that with 3.0 Pro, and ended up repeating Model Armor injections without really understanding/following them). In any case they aren't trying to hide it particularly hard. | | |
| ▲ | FergusArgyll an hour ago | parent [-] | | > In any case they aren't trying to hide it particularly hard. What does that mean? Are you able to read the raw cot? how? |
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